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Créé par: MTLaveragefan

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 30 août 2023

Publié: 30 août 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Let's send our rookies down to Laval to learn in a winning environment.

Even if we are decent this year. The Atlantic Division is too brutal to make the playoff. So might as well tank and get another top 5 prospect.

Let the players have fun and develop in the AHL - have them go on a long playoff drive for the Calder cup. The AHL is far better for them to develop their skills and creativity than the NHL.

bring all of them back up next year after we draft a Celebrini or Demidov. That would be great.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VGK)

SJS

Allen, Jake

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
53	83 500 000 $	99 158 750 $	1 170 000 $	5 327 500 $	-15 658 750 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ AG, C RFA - 4	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
Heineman, Emil 897 500 $897 500 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Farrell, Sean 897 500 $897 500 $ (557 500 $$558K) AD, AG RFA - 2	Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 3
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2	Andersson, Lias 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Mesar, Filip 918 333 $918 333 $ AD, C RFA - 3
Stephens, Mitchell 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 1	Kidney, Riley 836 667 $836 667 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 3	Simoneau, Xavier 855 000 $855 000 $ AG, AD, C RFA - 2
Condotta, Lucas 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Mysak, Jan 828 333 $828 333 $ (82 500 $$82K) C, AG RFA - 2	Légaré, Nathan 789 167 $789 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Beaudin, Nicolas 775 000 $775 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav 950 000 $950 000 $ DD RFA - 1	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	AHL, AHL 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $	Dobes, Jakub 925 000 $925 000 $ G RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG RFA - 2	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Mailloux, Logan 875 000 $875 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DD RFA - 3
Norlinder, Mattias 859 167 $859 167 $ (32 500 $$32K) DG RFA - 1	Trudeau, William 856 667 $856 667 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3

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Formation générée par un utilisateur via «Fauteuil-DG» - CapFriendly.com

ATTAQUANTS (30)
Ailier droit: Cole Caufield (7 850 000 $) - Josh Anderson (5 500 000 $) - Brendan Gallagher (6 500 000 $) - Joel Armia (3 400 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Joshua Roy (835 000 $) - Filip Mesar (918 333 $) - Xavier Simoneau (855 000 $) - Nathan Légaré (789 167 $)
Centre: Nick Suzuki (7 875 000 $) - Kirby Dach (3 362 500 $) - Sean Monahan (1 985 000 $) - Jake Evans (1 700 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Sean Farrell (897 500 $) - Lias Andersson (775 000 $) - Riley Kidney (836 667 $) - Jan Mysak (828 333 $)
Ailier gauche: Alex Newhook (2 900 000 $) - Rafaël Harvey-Pinard (1 100 000 $) - Jesse Ylönen (775 000 $) - Michael Pezzetta (812 500 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Emil Heineman (897 500 $) - Juraj Slafkovsky (950 000 $) - Mitchell Stephens (775 000 $) - Lucas Condotta (775 000 $)

DÉFENSEUR (17)
Droite: David Savard (3 500 000 $) - Johnathan Kovacevic (766 667 $) - Gustav Lindström (950 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Justin Barron (925 000 $) - Logan Mailloux (875 000 $) - William Trudeau (856 667 $)
Gauche: Michael Matheson (4 875 000 $) - Jordan Harris (1 400 000 $) - Nicolas Beaudin (775 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Kaiden Guhle (863 333 $) - Arber Xhekaj (828 333 $) - Mattias Norlinder (859 167 $) - Jayden Struble (867 500 $)

GARDIEN DE BUT (5)
Samuel Montembeault (1 000 000 $) - Casey DeSmith (1 800 000 $) - AHL AHL (1 000 000 $) - Cayden Primeau (890 000 $) - Jakub Dobes (925 000 $)

RACHATS DE CONTRATS (1)
Karl Alzner (833 333 $)

TRANSACTIONS IMPLIQUANT UNE RETENUE DE SALAIRE (2)
Joel Edmundson (1 750 000 $) - Jeff Petry (2 343 750 $)

DÉTAILS
Taille de la formation: 53
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Report des bonis excédentaires: 1 170 000 $
Cap hit: 99 158 750 $
Espace sous le plafond: -15 658 750 $

30 août à 10 h 39

GeneralLandro

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Slaf Guhle Barron and Xhekaj in the AHL?

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30 août à 10 h 42

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Slaf Guhle Barron and Xhekaj in the AHL?

Yep. All in on the tank.

Ghule is probably too good for the AHL - but it would make an AMAZING dcore in Laval. Yet all 3 would benefit from more dev time to play on the PP, PK and generally developping their offensive game.

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30 août à 10 h 45

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I get it to a point but I think you're worse off throwing guys who have already had significant NHL time back down to the AHL just to avoid losing. The only thing I think makes sense is whoever out of Guhle/Xhekaj/Barron doesn't make the top 6 out of camp should be sent down to Laval to get top pair minutes there, instead of being the 7th D in the NHL (that's what guys like Chris Wideman are here for.)

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30 août à 10 h 50

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Slaf Guhle Barron and Xhekaj in the AHL?

Good thing he isnt a gm

30 août à 10 h 54

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

I agree with that compromise when it's unrealistic to see a guy like Ghule go to the AHL. I think Xhekaj would benefit the most from being sent down. He's got more skills than we think and we could become more than a 6th D who fights. He moves well - there might be an extra gear that could be developed.

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30 août à 10 h 54

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Guhle would stay up, his development would get slowed down in the AHL. He will get quite a few minutes in the NHL this year. Slaf maybe for a few games coming off of season ending injury maybe but i doubt it. Xhekaj could be there and bump up and down. Barron probably most of the season in the NHL if hes playing bad or losing confidence send him down

30 août à 10 h 55

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Quoting: PeterGriffin

Good thing he isnt a gm

Can you really tell me that Slaf and Barron are thriving in the NHL? they still need more time. I don't want to create another KK scenario.

By sending everyone down - no feelings are hurt.

30 août à 10 h 57

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Xhekaj should start the year in the AHL, play double the minutes and be a factor, if/when he develops more he could be a for sure call up halfway through the season who knows

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30 août à 10 h 58

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Quoting: PeterGriffin

Yeah, I agree that Ghule is pretty much ready for the NHL.

In some way, I want them to prove that they belong at Camp... not because they are a good prospects/rookies. Like if Slaf can't manage to outplay anybody in the top 9, I rather he be sent down to Laval instead of playing 12min each night.

Send him down so he can play 18 minutes and on the PP and PK.

30 août à 10 h 58

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Quoting: PeterGriffin

Xhekaj should start the year in the AHL, play double the minutes and be a factor, if/when he develops more he could be a for sure call up halfway through the season who knows

I think we agree with the principle, we just disagree on the extend.

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30 août à 10 h 59

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Can you really tell me that Slaf and Barron are thriving in the NHL? they still need more time. I don't want to create another KK scenario.

By sending everyone down - no feelings are hurt.

I think Barron could use a year in the AHL possibly, but i think it would make most sense for slaf to start the year up in the NHL and if he is losing confidence or not playing great send him down. Slaf should be better than KK though imo even if KK fully developed

30 août à 11 h 0

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

I think we agree with the principle, we just disagree on the extend.

I think youre right for sure. Guhle is the only one for me that should be a for sure NHLer all year

30 août à 11 h 24

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You have to keep in mind that the AHL style of play doesn't help the development of certain player types.
Top talent are few since they don't thrive in the classic 4th-line dump and chase style.

30 août à 12 h 16

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

why not just send ghule and slaf to the echl, i'm sure they could dominate even more there, would be so massively beneficial to their development as NHL players...

30 août à 12 h 28

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Quoting: PeterGriffin

I rather do it in reverse - I want to to gain confidence with AHL then be brought up filled with confidence. Otherwise, it feels like a punishement.

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