Hmm. I'll have to read it again. I thought that they cannot shorten the time a team owns their rights be sitting out. Although, I guess it doesn't matter, sitting out for two years is never going to happen.

As we're all saying arbitration would happen before that.

That offer is an easy no from Winnipeg. No first, no Dubois.

Its copium season in winnipeg.

his value is Whatever the habs feel hes worth to not disrespect Chevy. If they felt like it, they could offer a 4th rounder cause either way hes a Habs players. These are the situations. Habs trade and sign for anything under 7.875m aav, some team pays him 1.5-2m over that (anything less i think he picks montreal) or Jets refuse to trade Dubois signs in arb for 1 year and hes a FA in 2024 and the habs get him for free in FA (or some team overpays in FA)

So either the habs get him cheap in 2023 or free in 2024, or some other team overpays his contract in 2023 or 2024. Either way, Jets are screwed

Are you sure you know what's going on? You know that Montreal can't force anything right?

Say Montreal offers a lowball offer like this one, the the Jets just trade him elsewhere where he it's willing to extend and Montreal misses out.

READ MY GUY. A team would have to offer 8.5m+ for him to sign with them over the Habs. Assuming he really wants to be a Habs player. And if he costs that much in salary and the Habs miss out, i wont fell bad. Hes not a 8.5m+ player

I don't think this will lower his value at all. He is an RFA expire and will get between $6.5M - $8.5M on his next deal, putting his OS draft pick value as a 2024 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. There is only 11 teams that fit that range. If someone wants to trade for PLD, they are going to have to pony up the equivalent of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to get him

No team will offer sheet him right now, when they could all get him for cheaper.

The only RFA's that are indefinite are Russians, because of the CHL and NCAA agreements you can age out at 27, most top players though accrue enough seasons before that time so it's not often the outcome.

Edit*** I forgot to mention that I disagree with my fellow Habs fan on this one, Brinson would know if his comment was going to tank PLD's value and if it did then it would also tank his contract value since he would be negotiating from the weak side of it. I think everyone knows PLD will be traded and that he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg but all this does is force the Jets to make a trade instead of trying to resign him year to year.

Ah, you're assuming silly things again. Brisson said he's willing to work with the Jets to find a trade, not that he'll only go to Montreal. So, what you're missing is, if Montreal offers garbage, they miss out. Plain and simple.

I don't want him to, but imagine he gets traded to Toronto, Ottawa or Boston and signs for under the Suzuki contract for 8 years... That would be pretty funny

That would be hilarious. Imagine all the backtracking here.

How can they get him for cheaper? They'd either trade assets that are equal in that value or they'll have to OS him to get him. WPG doesn't have to trade him.

I think players going to or coming from the KHL are the only exception where teams keep the player's rights beyond 27. It's something to do with the transfer agreements between the leagues. Just about every Euro league has one with the NHL but the KHL doesn't (Russia wants NHL teams to pay soccer style transfer fees for their players and the NHL is against that). So the NHL made a special provision for KHL players so they couldn't just stay in Russia until 26 or 27 and just disregard the team that drafted them.

Yeah, I just thought there was no way for a player to gain a contract advantage by sitting out when the Jets had the Trouba situation. I was sure that they said at the time, that even if he sat out his last year, he would still owe the Jets a year when he came back.

This is the clause I was taking about. Since he hasn't accrued 7 seasons and his contract didn't expire after he had turned 27. He still owes that 7th year and can't get out of it, no matter what.

Group 3 UFA

This is the most common type of UFA. A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if their current contract ends after either 7 Accrued Seasons or they are 27 or older as of June 30

So, sitting out wouldn't benefit him. He still owes that 7th year. I didn't think the owners would let players off the hook that easy.

100% him sitting out was never going to benefit anyone.

My interpretation of that paragraph was different but but upon reviewing it I see what you mean. In any case it's not really worth debating the interpretation of that rule since we both agree that sitting out the season without a contract is just about the stupidest thing that Dubois could do and also the least likely of all possible outcomes in this crazy saga. Likewise the only way players could benefit from sitting out a season to reach UFA would be to sign in the KHL (since they are the only ones who can put together an NHL comparable financial package) and the NHL has already plugged that hole anyways. So however a person decides to interpret the UFA clause it wouldn't be advantageous to any player to sit out anyways.

"Bad trade, Dubois backstabs his team", "Bad trade, Dubois doesn't care when it matters" would be all the comments from angry Habs fans