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(CBJ/LAK/PHI) - 2023 1st (LAK), 2024 2nd (CBJ) for Petersen, Walker, Grans, 2024 2nd (LAK) for Provorov, Hodgson, Connauton

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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 44
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Trade confirmed: Columbus Blue Jackets - Los Angeles Kings - Philadelphia Flyers
Détails de la transaction
Les Kings de Los Angeles font l’acquisition de:
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De PHI:
Kevin Connauton · 0 $762 500 $450 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Ivan Provorov · 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $8 500 000 $
Hayden Hodgson · 0 $800 000 $800 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Somme: 6 750 000 $8 312 500 $9 750 000 $
Variation: -5 625 000 $
Variation: -4 910 000 $
Variation: -4 630 000 $
Les Flyers de Philadelphie font l’acquisition de:
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De LAK:
Cal Petersen · 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
Sean Walker · 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $3 350 000 $
Helge Grans · 0 $847 500 $80 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
De CBJ:
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK - #22 - Oliver Bonk)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ) [Conditionnel]*
*Conditions: Columbus doit décider après la conclusion de la 1e ronde en 2024 s'il envoie aux Flyers le choix de 2e ronde en 2024 ou en 2025.
Somme: 7 650 000 $8 497 500 $8 430 000 $
Variation: +900 000 $
Variation: +185 000 $
Variation: -1 320 000 $
Les Blue Jackets de Columbus font l’acquisition de:
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De LAK:
Ivan Provorov (2 025 000 $ retenus - 30%) · 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $5 950 000 $
Somme: 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $5 950 000 $
Variation: +4 725 000 $
Variation: +4 725 000 $
Variation: +5 950 000 $
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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i like it for the flyers
6 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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Outta left field lol!
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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Amazing 1st trade for Briere. Exited to see what he is going to do with the rest of the offseason
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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Briere masterclass
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 47
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I LOVE MY LIFE I LOVE MY GENERAL MANAGER I LOVE MY TEAM I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS HAPPY
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 47
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Philly: Gets really good value for Prov, even though they take Petty as well

LA: Receives valuable cap space

Columbus: What the heck are they doing
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 48
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CBJ overpay, feel like they didn't have to pay a premium for retention unless more moves are coming... Just seem like they could have waited for cap strapped teams to trade away D help instead of paying a premium from a team who has cap space.
6 juin 2023 à 15 h 48
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banger trade for philadelphia.

columbus did los angeles a bit dirty here by not providing anything in return for the salary retention
6 juin 2023 à 15 h 50
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Carter Hart to? Ottawa, Anaheim, Buffalo?
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 51
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Philly did great

Columbus did very well (though really odd move considering where they are as an organization. Just looking at pure value)

LA did terrible. In the end to essentially trade Petersen at 3 million, they paid a 2nd, Walker and a prospect?
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 51
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The offseason is indeed starting off with a bang. Pretty fair deal all around. Columbus gets another top/second pair LHD to help with Werenski, parting with a surplus 1st round pick and early 2nd rounder. The price might be a tad steep, but the market was set with Chychrun from earlier this season. Hopefully gets Provorov to bounce back to his good days by giving him a steady defensive parter.

For LA, the numbers are what matter here. They take on an effective $9,212,500 in real money in exchange for $5,625,000 in cap savings in 23-24 and $2,975,000 in savings in 24-25. Taking from its surplus of prospects, moving Helge Grans and 54th overall to create valuable cap space (opportunity cost) to help solidify its team as a true contender in the West.

And for Philadelphia, man does Danny B hit a homerun. Able to move a player that doesn’t fit the culture or window and save those Comcast big wigs almost 3 million is quite the deal. 22nd, 2 future 2nd round picks, and Grans for Provorov and taking on an additional cap space of $900,000 this year and saving $1,750,000 the next? He gets to replenish the picks lost from the Fletcher area and still has key trade chips (Hart, Konecny, Hayes) to play with?

The glory days will return
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: Mcdeeznuts
Carter Hart to? Ottawa, Anaheim, Buffalo?


Why? Petersen is terrible
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 52
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Modifié 6 juin 2023 à 16 h 45
Wow, LAK gets SOME cap space, but with that retention it's not as much as you'd think. $5.6M this year $3M next year (also still need to at least fill that roster spot OR subtract $1.15M because that's Cal's AHL contract reduction...making it $4.45M this year and $1.85M next year...). A 2nd round pick and pretty decent prospect is what it takes to dump cap right now. Great news for AZ, ANA, and CHI.
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 52
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I love this for Philly, CBJ does fine, Provorov's still a good D and you only paid a 1st + 2nd to get him retained, LA got absolutely robbed, you retained on Provorov and paid a 2nd + Grans to dump Petersen and Walker??? Why LA
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 53
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
The offseason is indeed starting off with a bang. Pretty fair deal all around. Columbus gets another top/second pair LHD to help with Werenski, parting with a surplus 1st round pick and early 2nd rounder. The price might be a tad steep, but the market was set with Chychrun from earlier this season. Hopefully gets Provorov to bounce back to his good days by giving him a steady defensive parter.

For LA, the numbers are what matter here. They take on an effective $9,212,500 in real money in exchange for $5,625,000 in cap savings in 23-24 and $2,975,000 in savings in 24-25. Taking from its surplus of prospects, moving Helge Grans and 54th overall to create valuable cap space (opportunity cost) to help solidify its team as a true contender in the West.

And for Philadelphia, man does Danny B hit a homerun. Able to move a player that doesn’t fit the culture or window and save those Comcast big wigs almost 10 million is quite the deal. 22nd, 2 future 2nd round picks, and Grans for Provorov and taking on an additional cap space of $900,000 this year and saving $1,750,000 the next? He gets to replenish the picks lost from the Fletcher area and still has key trade chips (Hart, Konecny, Hayes) to play with?

The glory days will return


Your analysis acts like walker had negative value. It's poor asset management
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 54
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A 1st for Ivan Provorov even at 30% retention is way too much to part with for such an unremarkable defender.
I see little upside and a whole lotta downside from CBJ's perspective.
Between the Gudbranson signing, Björkstrand trade and now this move, it seems to me that Kekkäläinen is incapable of finding the right guys to take this team forward.
Getting someone like Sean Walker in, who coincidentally is part of this deal going to the Flyers, would've achieved the exact same thing as trading for Provorov, but a fraction of the cost.

Briere made out like a bandit here. The Flyers may finally have a somewhat competitive GM.
Fantastic first trade for this man.

Kings have both veteran defenders and defensive prospects in excess meaning the amount of value they are giving up for cap space gained is relatively manageable for them.
Spence, Björnfot and Clarke should all be close to ready to step into full time NHL roles.
However it's still a lot of value the Kings are giving up for that cap space which could set a very high price on future cap dumps for this summer, probably a fair bit higher than previously expected (looking at you Vancouver fans).
6 juin 2023 à 15 h 55
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PHI could likely get a little something for Walker half retained at the deadline on top of all this. Tidy work for a rookie GM.
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 56
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Your analysis acts like walker had negative value. It's poor asset management


He may have positive value somewhere, but the value of an additional 2.65M to spend on other areas rather than a 3rd pairing defensemen this year is what they are paying for. The opportunity cost is what they are getting in return.
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 57
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THATS MY GM
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6 juin 2023 à 15 h 58
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Quoting: BCAPP
Your analysis acts like walker had negative value. It's poor asset management

Quoting: phillyjabroni
He may have positive value somewhere, but the value of an additional 2.65M to spend on other areas rather than a 3rd pairing defensemen this year is what they are paying for. The opportunity cost is what they are getting in return.

There's reason to believe that the Flyers D corps actually got better through this trade:
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6 juin 2023 à 16 h 0
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Columbus W, not explaining why though.
6 juin 2023 à 16 h 6
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LA gets cap space to extend Vilardi and Gavrikov and potentially add Hart or Hellybuyck in another trade

CBJ get a Dman who in a lesser role may do much better

Philly kickstarts the rebuild
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