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3 way trade for cap space

Créé par: SMH
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023
Publié: 5 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Both Toronto and Vancouver get to dump enormous amount of cap, montreal will have to make more moves to get rid of edmundson if muzzin is back off LTIR at some point, they can also trade Meyers half retaind for a pick

Toronto dump some cap but get a goalie with an ok cap hit and Beauvillier at 3M for a top 6 player it isn't bad

Vancouver dump enough cap so they can get players in free agency if they want while getting a quality 5-6th RD and hoffman at 2.5M to take boeser spot on the PP, they do trade the 11th pick away but they get back 2 late 1st and a good RD prospect
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MTL
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony (1 150 000 $ retained)
  2. Boeser, Brock
  3. Myers, Tyler
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Hoffman, Mike (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  3. Niemelä, Topi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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4.
MTL
TOR
  1. Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
If Toronto want him they can have him too
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 609 999 $1 170 000 $4 195 000 $3 890 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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5 juin 2023 à 15 h 27
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Muzzin is on LTIR so they are not shedding any cap moving him.
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Why on earth would Toronto make that trade?
5 juin 2023 à 15 h 30
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Muzzin is on LTIR so they are not shedding any cap moving him.


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Why on earth would Toronto make that trade?


Because they need a goalie and cap space
5 juin 2023 à 15 h 37
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Don’t completely hate it from a Canucks perspective, but not sure if they’d want to move that far back

Can’t see Toronto doing that though. They already have Samsonov and Woll so they don’t need Allen, and giving a 1st + Niemela for Beauvillier and to dump Murray seems like too much
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5 juin 2023 à 15 h 40
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Because they need a goalie and cap space


Need a goalie ! Huh ? 🤦🏻
5 juin 2023 à 15 h 43
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Muzzin is on LTIR so they are not shedding any cap moving him.


They would be shedding and gaining cap by moving him though. With him gone they could do what they're famous for and accrue cap space at a high rate
5 juin 2023 à 15 h 45
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They would be shedding and gaining cap by moving him though. With him gone they could do what they're famous for and accrue cap space at a high rate


but when he is on ltir he doesnt count towards the cap anyways. and they will be spending to the cap i think.
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They would be shedding and gaining cap by moving him though. With him gone they could do what they're famous for and accrue cap space at a high rate


They would definitely rather be out of LTIR than in it, but the cost won't be a 1st/2nd to move one yr of LTIR Muzzin. Besides this move gives them 3 goalies and they can't keep all 3. They have one has RFA I imagine they want to sign at least for a year and another that needs waivers that they probably want to keep. And though a team like them will always want cap space, they are not dying for it and they could probably move Murray somewhere else.
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5 juin 2023 à 16 h 2
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but when he is on ltir he doesnt count towards the cap anyways. and they will be spending to the cap i think.


He doesn't but the bonuses of not using LTIR far out weigh having that extra money. Teams can manoveour with more freedom and can pile up a cap gain to use the money at the TDL.

It's very complicated but basically everyday you're under the cap you gain that cap space back to use at another time. Players in LTIR count against that cap and dont let teams accrue more money to use at a later date.

That would be the main benefit to getting rid of the Muzzin contract
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5 juin 2023 à 16 h 3
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Muzzin is on LTIR so they are not shedding any cap moving him.


Well, by moving Muzzin, the Leafs can accure cap space during the season, so depending on how tight they get, that would be the logic. Can't do that with LTIR of that magnitude.

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Because they need a goalie and cap space


Leafs have Woll (no longer waiver exempt) and Samsonov, so Allen is redundant.

Quoting: mv21227
Don’t completely hate it from a Canucks perspective, but not sure if they’d want to move that far back

Can’t see Toronto doing that though. They already have Samsonov and Woll so they don’t need Allen, and giving a 1st + Niemela for Beauvillier and to dump Murray seems like too much


More than that. The Leafs organizational defensive depth is ridiculously thin. Moving from a complete position of weakness. That is why this doesn't work.

Now.....

Beauviller and Ylönen may add offensive depth to the Leafs at a reasonable contract cost, neither solve what is needed the most in the top 9 - and that is sandpaper.

Knies looks like he can supply some of that, but more is needed. Players that can get in the trenches and open up ice for the "core 4". Beauviller and Ylönen simply do nothing to move the needle.

So, the Leafs trade.... Given everything? The only benefit would be clearing Muzzin's contract, and at that cost, much further ahead to hang in to it.

But I like the outside the box thinking.
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5 juin 2023 à 16 h 37
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They would definitely rather be out of LTIR than in it, but the cost won't be a 1st/2nd to move one yr of LTIR Muzzin. Besides this move gives them 3 goalies and they can't keep all 3. They have one has RFA I imagine they want to sign at least for a year and another that needs waivers that they probably want to keep. And though a team like them will always want cap space, they are not dying for it and they could probably move Murray somewhere else.


If the habs have someone interested in allen if ship him out and send you the return (4 way trade lol) but basically i thought he'll be a replacement for murry who will cost to dump...)
6 juin 2023 à 7 h 45
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He doesn't but the bonuses of not using LTIR far out weigh having that extra money. Teams can manoveour with more freedom and can pile up a cap gain to use the money at the TDL.

It's very complicated but basically everyday you're under the cap you gain that cap space back to use at another time. Players in LTIR count against that cap and dont let teams accrue more money to use at a later date.

That would be the main benefit to getting rid of the Muzzin contract


Yes but not at that cost because we dont need allen since we have sammy and woll
 
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