Quoting: Caniac2000
So you don't want stats... you want to use your own take over the numbers... bold
There's nothing wrong with a 3rd pairing D man, but there are about 50 in the free agent market and Carolina could probably land someone who is better (Carson Soucey as an example) without having to give up anything. But you also need to understand that those 3rd pairing defensemen are not driving factors in making the Stanley Cup Finals. 2 cup finals in 5 years... cool. Cory Perry has been to 3 of the last 4. I'd argue Perry was more of a factor than Edmundson, at least in the St Louis cup run.
Sure, he's 6'5. You cannot teach a guy to be 6'5. But you suggest that I only spew hate. Yet, he was analytically Carolina's worst defenseman the year he spent in Raleigh. I would like to point out, Jake Bean and Haydn Fleury were on that roster at the time. They were better than Edmundson. That's with Edmundson getting a babysitter in Pesce. You're trying to say I know nothing, yet you completely ignore the fact Eddy flopped in Raleigh.
I have nothing against Edmundson as a person. I'm sure he's a great guy. But he was easily the worst defenseman in Raleigh that year, and he even admitted it in his end of season press conference, after he watched the end of the Boston series from the press box when Hamilton recovered from the leg break.
You just typed out a whole lot of nothing. Want to continue this conversation? Justify it. Edmundson was given a top 4 role in Carolina and stunk the joint up. He was given a 3rd pairing role, and they opted to load up at the deadline and replace him instead. That's pretty damning that he's not a good fit for Carolina, and that he's not a good defenseman in the eyes of an analytically run organization, because he's awful analytically.
Teams adapt after every cup run whether they won or not
Arguing that STL didnt keep him is futile at best cause MTL grabbed him and he made another SCF
Teams in the Cap World have to adjust constantly ,
Trying to Manipulate Business into a personal attack is the signature of a Bad Person with no Respect for others or themselves.
No i said i dont care what your take is on his not being a Point Per Game Player.
I look at his stats vs the entire teams for context then look at the game day breakdowns via NHL.com
Then i make a call based on how your Coach played him and how he responded.
Then i match that versus previous years.
You get mad during a game and paint a target on players you dont like.
Which is fine , everyone does it. Most of us however know how to check our bias
We dont spend all our time trying to downplay his value or role on two SCF runs in which he got a Ring during 1/2.
You speak as if he's getting paid to produce 50 pts but at the end of the day he's played like a 3m dollar player for years
I speak like someone weighing his cap, contributions ,impact and how the coach used him to find out if he has value to the team equal to his contract.
It was a clear yes based on NHL comparables playing his role capable of his minutes with his consistency
I mean Radulov didnt work out here despite having a career year to that point
While im a little irritated with him i dont let that bias stop me from enjoying watching him play.
Met to many future Hockey Stars supporting Junior to have such an Arrogant POV.
They're not Icons to be attacked because you dont see them as people.
They're boys who grew into men playing the game and making sacrifices long before doing this for a living was a real possibility.
So even players i hate i wont go out of my way to undermine or discredit their value
I just point out my hate for them without Slander admitting its bias rather then pretending its not at others expense like you have .