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How could Montreal use their cap space to get picks

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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023
Publié: 5 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I am thinking that taking on OEL for Vancouver's first, plus Montreal adding would work
Same with Montreal taking on Granlund from Pittsburgh
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MTL
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
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    Realistically, what comes from Montreal's side?
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    1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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      Realistically, what comes from Montreal's side (assuming OEL waives for Montreal- perhaps if they agree to retain on him and flip him somewhere he wants to go)??
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      1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
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      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 54
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      Quoting: Christrpn24
      It would depend on how much Pittsburgh values their 14OA pick and the potential players available at that time. I can see MTL sweetening the deal with any of those players.

      Hughs would also have to believe that those players available are worth more than what he's giving up. Kidney had a good season last year. Is it worth givcing him up for a similar player at 14OA?


      I like Kidney, but he is small and lots of players have good years in the CHL (or any other developmental league) but do not project to be top NHL players. I think Montreal would get better by taking more NHL ready prospects like the ones listed above. I know I could be wrong about Kidney, but i would be willing to take that risk in a very deep draft year.
      5 juin 2023 à 13 h 1
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Wonder why he was nearly dealt at last years deadline then 🤔


      Was he dealt? To my eyes he's still a Hab and one fans want gone because he isn't good.
      5 juin 2023 à 14 h 52
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      Quoting: Newtown
      He was nearly dealt for a 1st but then Hughes figured out the other team wanted the 1st, ala Monahan. tears of joy


      I guess I’ll need to explain it to you… the difference, and quite a large one at that, is Calgary was cash strapped and actually trying to make a run at the playoffs/cup. As evidenced by treliving making the moves that he did. Montreal literally has ZERO incentive to move a cup winning, albeit aging and oft injured dman, if it needs to be accompanied with any type of futures.
      5 juin 2023 à 14 h 55
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      Quoting: Herb_Brooks
      you, also internet GM who is biased towards his team, hes a 3rd line winger who cant stay healthy and has cracked 40 points in his career ONCE. oh wait but he hits!? hes for sure worth 5.5m for the next 4 years! of course he is! and worth more than a first !


      If all you value is points, go select every player in the top-20 of the QMJHL and fill out your teams roster that way. There’s more to hockey than that, but I guess youre just a casual 🤷🏻‍♂️
      5 juin 2023 à 14 h 56
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      I guess I’ll need to explain it to you… the difference, and quite a large one at that, is Calgary was cash strapped and actually trying to make a run at the playoffs/cup. As evidenced by treliving making the moves that he did. Montreal literally has ZERO incentive to move a cup winning, albeit aging and oft injured dman, if it needs to be accompanied with any type of futures.


      That’a why Hughes said no.
      5 juin 2023 à 14 h 59
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      Quoting: RipNasty
      Was he dealt? To my eyes he's still a Hab and one fans want gone because he isn't good.


      Well then you have no feel for why the fans want him gone. He’s a LD taking up a spot that could be used for development of one of our youngsters. It has nothing to do with his play, which has been more than fine for what he’s being paid, and for where he’s slotted into the lineup.
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      5 juin 2023 à 15 h 2
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      If all you value is points, go select every player in the top-20 of the QMJHL and fill out your teams roster that way. There’s more to hockey than that, but I guess youre just a casual 🤷🏻‍♂️


      its not all about points youre 100% correct, but at 5.5 for 4 more years Josh Anderson doesnt do enough other stuff to justify a high of 32 points no matter how you try to spin it. not worth that at all.
      5 juin 2023 à 15 h 5
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      Realistically, OEL wouldn't get moved. It would cost Vancouver too much to move him with our already weak prospect pool. When Arizona traded him, Vancouver and Boston were the only places he was willing to waive for. No reason for that to have changed, so the only place you'd be able to reroute him to is Boston, who doesn't have the cap space or need for him at all.
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      5 juin 2023 à 15 h 53
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      Quoting: RipNasty
      No one wants Edmundson


      At this point, I agree. But that could change.

      As he turns just 30 this month, I think his poor performance was due to injury rather than age.

      It will become clear early next season whether he can still play at his former level. If his bum back precludes it and he's moved to LTIR for the season, some teams may see value in his acquisition.
      5 juin 2023 à 16 h 24
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Well then you have no feel for why the fans want him gone. He’s a LD taking up a spot that could be used for development of one of our youngsters. It has nothing to do with his play, which has been more than fine for what he’s being paid, and for where he’s slotted into the lineup.


      As a Habs fan, I can attest that, last season, Edmundson was a liability on the ice. The question becomes whether it was due to injury (i.e. he can heal and return to form) or due to age (although he is still only 29.)

      At the level he played prior to 2022/23, he has significant value to a contender. His contract is also of value if he ruled "out for the season" and is moved to LTIR. But on an NHL roster playing at the level he did last year, his value is negative---at any salary and taking into account his considerable leadership qualities and any other intangibles he may bring to the table.
      5 juin 2023 à 18 h 40
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Well then you have no feel for why the fans want him gone. He’s a LD taking up a spot that could be used for development of one of our youngsters. It has nothing to do with his play, which has been more than fine for what he’s being paid, and for where he’s slotted into the lineup.


      He's most definitely not fine
       
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