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How could Montreal use their cap space to get picks

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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023
Publié: 5 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I am thinking that taking on OEL for Vancouver's first, plus Montreal adding would work
Same with Montreal taking on Granlund from Pittsburgh
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MTL
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
PIT
    Realistically, what comes from Montreal's side?
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    1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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      Realistically, what comes from Montreal's side (assuming OEL waives for Montreal- perhaps if they agree to retain on him and flip him somewhere he wants to go)??
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      1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
      2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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      1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
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      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 18
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      No one wants Edmundson
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 19
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      Quoting: RipNasty
      No one wants Edmundson


      Wonder why he was nearly dealt at last years deadline then 🤔
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 21
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      @KentMcNally I’d like to think PIT would take some older prospects that just need a change of scenery… my guess is Mysak & Norlinder.


      For the Vancouver one I don’t even know where to begin
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 22
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      Quoting: RipNasty
      No one wants Edmundson


      If there is retention on him I could see there being interest as a 6/7 Dman. He did not play well last year and at full cap hit it’s hard to see. That said, Toronto has only 3 draft picks this year and very few the last few years and moving forward at some point your scouts are going to want to work elsewhere if you have zero picks.
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 22
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Wonder why he was nearly dealt at last years deadline then 🤔


      Wonder why he wasn’t flushed cheeks
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      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 23
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      Pittsburgh would need a true asset back giving up a lottery 1st.
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 23
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      Quoting: Newtown
      Wonder why he wasn’t flushed cheeks


      Because Kent Hughes doesn’t take Ls 🤷🏻‍♂️
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 24
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Wonder why he was nearly dealt at last years deadline then 🤔



      Nearly dealt 😂, what does that mean? I know he fits the ‘Treviling likes physical dman narrative’ but dude is washed, too much risk (back injury) for the leafs to give up assets and cap space for him
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 24
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      Quoting: dgibb10
      Pittsburgh would need a true asset back giving up a lottery 1st.


      It’s not a lottery 1st… it would be the 14th overall pick
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 25
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Because Kent Hughes doesn’t take Ls 🤷🏻‍♂️


      he drafted slaf first overall and "apparently" turned down a first for anderson according to every habs fan eeeek
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 25
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Nearly dealt 😂, what does that mean? I know he fits the ‘Treviling likes physical dman narrative’ but dude is washed, too much risk (back injury) for the leafs to give up assets and cap space for him


      Needing an explanation on something so straightforward tells me you’re only here to troll, so this is the only response you’ll be getting from me
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 25
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      Granlund costs pennies to buy out why would we move our lottery first (14th OA) with him when we can just buy him out?
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 26
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      Quoting: Herb_Brooks
      he drafted slaf first overall and "apparently" turned down a first for anderson according to every habs fan eeeek


      Precisely, whereas shane Wright barely dominated the O and was just alright in the AHL. And anderson is clearly worth more than a late first, so no thanks from Kent Hughes and all habs fans alike
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 28
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Precisely, whereas shane Wright barely dominated the O and was just alright in the AHL. And anderson is clearly worth more than a late first, so no thanks from Kent Hughes and all habs fans alike


      "And anderson is clearly worth more than a late first, so no thanks from Kent Hughes and all habs fans alike"

      tears of joy tears of joy
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 28
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      It’s not a lottery 1st… it would be the 14th overall pick


      That's a lottery 1st.
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 29
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Needing an explanation on something so straightforward tells me you’re only here to troll, so this is the only response you’ll be getting from me


      Not here to troll but you can’t possibly think that statement has any merit, except maybe arguing against your point. He wasn’t traded at deadline despite the obvious opportunity and incentive to do so - all playoff teams value big, physical dmen. Dude’s washed
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 30
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      Quoting: Herb_Brooks
      "And anderson is clearly worth more than a late first, so no thanks from Kent Hughes and all habs fans alike"

      tears of joy tears of joy


      You, internet GM, doesnt like/covet what anderson brings, does warrant tears of joy that’s true
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 30
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Because Kent Hughes doesn’t take Ls 🤷🏻‍♂️


      Because his contract is too much for what he brings. Ditto for many of the Habs players that are older and weren’t dealt. Hughes would have taken what he could have. The cap space alone allows you to acquire an equal or better player on the open market or add a dump. Bergervin screwed Hughes by overpaying Anderson, Gallagher, Dvorak, Hoffman, Armia, Savard, Edmundson and Byron. Now that this is the last year of his deal he’ll probably garner a pick at the deadline with retention. But PLEASE refrain from BUT Chariot got a 1st. I’m sure Florida regrets that one.
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 31
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      Quoting: dgibb10
      That's a lottery 1st.


      A lottery first is a 1st round pick that PRIOR to the draft lottery has the ability to move up to 1st overall…
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 32
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      Needing an explanation on something so straightforward tells me you’re only here to troll, so this is the only response you’ll be getting from me


      He was nearly dealt for a 1st but then Hughes figured out the other team wanted the 1st, ala Monahan. tears of joy
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      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 33
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      You, internet GM, doesnt like/covet what anderson brings, does warrant tears of joy that’s true


      you, also internet GM who is biased towards his team, hes a 3rd line winger who cant stay healthy and has cracked 40 points in his career ONCE. oh wait but he hits!? hes for sure worth 5.5m for the next 4 years! of course he is! and worth more than a first !
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      Quoting: BigBadBurke
      A lottery first is a 1st round pick that PRIOR to the draft lottery has the ability to move up to 1st overall…


      A lottery pick is any pick from a non playoff team's slot
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 38
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      Sooo nobody wants to talk proposals of players coming from Montreal in order to add to these trades??

      I was thinking Montreal can offer some combination of the following to Vancouver and Pittsburgh:
      Florida pick
      Mesar
      Kidney
      Davidson
      Norlinder
      Struble
      Heineman
      Engstorm

      Montreal could pick at at #11 or #14L
      Sandin Pellikk
      Leonard
      Wood
      Barlow
      Yager
      Simashev

      Anyone with some contsructive thoughts?
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 48
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      Quoting: KentMcNally
      Sooo nobody wants to talk proposals of players coming from Montreal in order to add to these trades??

      I was thinking Montreal can offer some combination of the following to Vancouver and Pittsburgh:
      Florida pick
      Mesar
      Kidney
      Davidson
      Norlinder
      Struble
      Heineman
      Engstorm

      Montreal could pick at at #11 or #14L
      Sandin Pellikk
      Leonard
      Wood
      Barlow
      Yager
      Simashev

      Anyone with some contsructive thoughts?


      It would depend on how much Pittsburgh values their 14OA pick and the potential players available at that time. I can see MTL sweetening the deal with any of those players.

      Hughs would also have to believe that those players available are worth more than what he's giving up. Kidney had a good season last year. Is it worth givcing him up for a similar player at 14OA?
      5 juin 2023 à 12 h 50
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      Quoting: dgibb10
      A lottery pick is any pick from a non playoff team's slot


      It's no longer considered a lottery pick after the draft lottery. For example, when a team trades their pick with but makes it lottery protected, that means they keep the pick if they win the lottery. Not if they miss the playoffs.
       
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