Habs offseason now Caufield is extended 8 years

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Créé par: JeffGorton

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023

Publié: 5 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Now we know Caufield is staying for 8 seasons. That gives the Habs the ability to take their time. First move would be to draft Michkov at 5. The Habs will have until he comes to NA to build the rest of the core. All that would be missing is an Elite RHD, Starting goalie if Monty isnt it and an Upgrade on C so the Habs can move Suzuki to the wing. (Where is playstyle would be best. Kinda like a poor mans Marner but with playoff pedigree)

So the next 3 years should be focused on acquiring as many top 60 picks as possible. By either trading players on the team who arent apart of the window or taking bad contracts

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël		2	1 500 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Murray, Matt
Villeneuve, William
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

Leafs get the Grit and playoff performer while getting rid of an awful contract. They need to go all out this season and with the cap only going up by 1m, moving bad cap will be expensive

And for those who say Anderson is a cap dump. Find me a 20+ goal scoring winger with his size and speed for under 5.5 million. All the FA options are either not as good or will cost more and for longer term.

TOR

Anderson, Josh

Détails additionnels:

Habs buyout Murray immediately after trade

MTL

Beauvillier, Anthony

VAN

Dvorak, Christian
Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

Ive seen this trade a few times and I like it. Beau can be traded 50% retained at the deadline if he performs and could fetch a 2nd rounder at least

MTL

Faksa, Radek

DAL

Armia, Joel
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

200k difference with same term, both need a new team to hopefully stay in the NHL after their contracts expire

Adding a 7th for the 200k difference and Center for RW

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (COL)

COL

Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Cup winning bottom pair LHD for $1,750,000 is decent. They made it work with Jack Johnson and Eddy is better than him in every facet. Also team gets a new locker room DJ

MTL

Granlund, Mikael
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

PIT

Kovacevic, Johnathan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)

Détails additionnels:

Habs give the 32nd pick and a very solid bottom pair D on his ELC to move up to 14th and eat Granlunds deal for 2 years. Added 2 4th rounder to sweeten the deal since the Pens need all the picks.

MTL

Mantha, Anthony
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)

WSH

Kostenko, Dmitri [Liste de réserve]
Pitlick, Rem
Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

2 very cheap bottom 6 pieces and 14th overall to up to 8th overall while eating Mantha's deal

Added a C rated D prospect to sweeten the deal

MTL

ARI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)

Détails additionnels:

Habs draft Michkov at 5, Benson or Leonard at 8, Perron at 28 and Hrabal at 37

If both Benson are taken at 8, move down a few spots if you can and take Perreault

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
Matt Murray: 687 500 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (200%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	70 819 999 $	1 170 000 $	4 195 000 $	12 680 001 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Beauvillier, Anthony 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Mantha, Anthony 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Faksa, Radek 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 39

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murray for anderson 1 for 1 is fair, 1 bad year of murray contract for 4 bad years of anderson contract, laughable trade as it is now

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 42

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

murray for anderson 1 for 1 is fair, 1 bad year of murray contract for 4 bad years of anderson contract, laughable trade as it is now

I was gonna say.....

Would sooner spend an additional $500K or so on Bertuzzi,whi is a year younger to boot.

All.for dumping Murray, but better ways to do it than 4 years of Anderson making about $1.5 million more than he should.

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 43

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That DAL and VAN trades are pretty diabolical.

Armia and dvorakwill cost more than that, both have kind of tanked, and you're getting the better/younger/cheaper (take your pick) player back.

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 47

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Leafs decline

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 48

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Quoting: swinny

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 48

Subbanator7667

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Leafs would still have to add to that trade

Don't think Pit or Washington make those moves

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 48

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I would rather JJ on the 3rd pair for 950k than J.E

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 49

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Avs decline, can get a better player in FA and not have to pay assets.

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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 49

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Quoting: swinny

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

And he was a PPG player the year before that. Anderson can never even hit half that

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 52

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Leafs would still have to add to that trade

Don't think Pit or Washington make those moves

ahahahahah no chance they would, murray for anderson cap dump for cap dump

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 53

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

bertuzzi>anderson

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 56

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

ahahahahah no chance they would, murray for anderson cap dump for cap dump

Except Anderson isn't a cap dump in NHL GMs minds. To them he is a big winger who skates fast and plays physical. Which to the old boys club that runs the NHL is valuable.

Like it or not but just about every insider has at one point reported on teams offering a 1st for him and the Habs telling them they'd need to add. So not a cap dump and is apparently valued at more then just a late 1st

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 58

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

the only person that has said hes been offered a first is kent hughes, hes driving up the cost of his player, hes smart, any insider got that info from hughes any gm that offered that should never work in the nhl again, hes a cap dump whether your bias habs glasses will let you see that or not, 5.5 m for a 3rd liner who cant crack 40 points, this trades a joke

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5 juin 2023 à 12 h 9

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Every team declines.

Thinking that Pittsburgh would move back from #14 to #31 to acquire waivers claim Kovacevic and dump Granlund when he could be bought out for $833,333 this summer is particularly egregious.

Quoting: Herb_Brooks

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

But he's Mark Stone without the "C"!

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5 juin 2023 à 12 h 17

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Or, TOR could just buyout Murray and keep their 1st round pick and their prospect?

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

So just to get this straight, it wasn't only Hughes. Friedman, Frank Serivalle, Sam Constantine, Darren Dreger, Bob McKenzie all confirmed the same report.

And I'm sorry that facts hurt your feelings but I'm sure your coloured glasses will help you not be soft next time

5 juin 2023 à 12 h 18

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

6 more points in 27 less games while being way better defensively and a bad back

5 juin 2023 à 12 h 20

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

hughes reported to them, IF Hughes did decline a first for anderson, then he should be fired. habs fans are the only fan base in the NHL that doesnt think anderson is a cap dump, yeah thats not biased. the fact the you said toronto needs to add to an already bad trade? yeah for sure not biased. absolutely delusional.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

They confirmed the report that Kent Hughes claimed he was offered a 1st yes

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Quoting: dgibb10

They confirmed the report that Kent Hughes claimed he was offered a 1st yes

They confirmed with multiple sources, thanks though

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

It's actually just basic logic, if the Habs wouldn't accept a 1st round for Anderson why would they accept it for him in a deal that includes another player worth his contract.

Also find it funny people think Anderson isn't worth a 1st when we have literally seen so many examples of big useless players going for 1st round picks. Size is always a desirable asset in the NHL and it's Anderson's main positive

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

They confirmed with multiple sources, thanks though

Sources from outside of montreal? Any sources on who the team was who offered it?

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

An attempt to justify that contract. It's bad. Let's admit it and move on.

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

You're right. Bertuzzi is better.

Anderson is a career 35 point guy. You cannot justify $5.5 million for 3rd line numbers. No way, no how, no doing.

Bertuzzi conversely, runs 45-50 points, making him much more a 2nd liner than Anderson ever will be. I can also point out his 30 goal season, or his near PPG pace with a much better Bruins club than Detroit was during his tenure.

I love Anderson's game. But there is absolutely no way you are going to convince me he is or ever was worth $5.5 million. One of thr worst contracts in the NHL.

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