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Kyle Connor and Connor Hellebuyck

Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2023
Publié: 5 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
13 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Connor, Kyle
  2. Hellebuyck, Connor
Détails additionnels:
CAR get one of the best goal scorer in the NHL & a top 5 goaltender. They have the cap space to extend Hellebuyck (but he doesn't come with an extension in place). LMK your thoughts, respectfully
WPG
  1. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  2. Nikishin, Alexander [Liste de réserve]
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. Trikozov, Gleb [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Not that bad when you break it down :
Only one contract slot is going to WPG, so it doesn't affect their contracts limit. They get TWO top defenseman prospect, a LHD & RHD. They receive former 2nd round pick Gleb Trikozov from the 2022 NHL draft and Ryan Suzuki (former 1st round pick)
Pick #30th OA in 2023
A 2024 1st round pick top 5 protected
Conditionnal 2nd round pick in 2024 : WPG receive the better pick between CAR 2nd round pick and PHI 2nd round pick
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 463 941 $450 000 $500 000 $36 059 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 3
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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5 juin 2023 à 9 h 43
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Canes are not going to move morrow or nikishin. I would like Connor but isn’t the best defensively, but the canes may need to do that for someone to score some goals. Not fully convinced on Helly. Canes also won’t move all those picks, they want to be a good team for a long time not bet all futures for one cup
5 juin 2023 à 9 h 54
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Seems ironic for someone with the “realistic” in their user name to come up with a completely unrealistic trade proposal
5 juin 2023 à 9 h 58
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Might want to better understand the Hurricanes asset management history to understand just how unrealistic this is. If this is what you are looking for - you are going to need to find another partner.

You’re asking for the Canes two best prospect (possible 3rd as well with Gleb) + 2 firsts and a projected high second.

I know the Canes would be receiving two impact players, but this just isn’t the way they do business…
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5 juin 2023 à 10 h 27
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canes not getting Kyle without either Necas or Jarvis going back
5 juin 2023 à 10 h 30
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Pass. Connor doesn’t care for defense and our system will fall apart if one guy is just skating around aimlessly in the defensive zone. We wouldn’t extend Helley so this would be poor for Carolina all around
5 juin 2023 à 11 h 45
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Seeing most Canes fans passing on this.

This is a serious Mortgage your future for right now kinda thing.

This is a win win and here's why.

Helly singlehandedly wins most of the games for the Jets. The Jets suck. Flat out. Imagine a 3 time nominated Vezina goalie who has won it once already, just turned 30 and having another amazing year. Not saying he guarantees the Canes a Stanley Cup, but if you play your backup 1/3 of the time to give Helly some rest, so he's not completely burnt out by the playoffs, and you had a natural scoring threat like Kyle Connor, the chances of winning it all just went up.

WPG "should" be rebuilding now and this definitely helps them to expedite the build.

CAR would have to win in the next year or 2 to offset giving up so many assets, but it's winning the Stanley Cup the goal?
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5 juin 2023 à 12 h 35
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Seeing most Canes fans passing on this.

This is a serious Mortgage your future for right now kinda thing.

This is a win win and here's why.

Helly singlehandedly wins most of the games for the Jets. The Jets suck. Flat out. Imagine a 3 time nominated Vezina goalie who has won it once already, just turned 30 and having another amazing year. Not saying he guarantees the Canes a Stanley Cup, but if you play your backup 1/3 of the time to give Helly some rest, so he's not completely burnt out by the playoffs, and you had a natural scoring threat like Kyle Connor, the chances of winning it all just went up.

WPG "should" be rebuilding now and this definitely helps them to expedite the build.

CAR would have to win in the next year or 2 to offset giving up so many assets, but it's winning the Stanley Cup the goal?


Canes fans says no to everything

It's clearly a win-win trade, and Hellebuyck would resign with them IMO
It's not THAT much future going the other way, maybe remove Gleb Trikozov but it's two good prospect with two late 1st + Suzuki
Getting a top goal scorer and Hellebuyck is definitely worth it IMO
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5 juin 2023 à 12 h 46
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Canes fans says no to everything

It's clearly a win-win trade, and Hellebuyck would resign with them IMO
It's not THAT much future going the other way, maybe remove Gleb Trikozov but it's two good prospect with two late 1st + Suzuki
Getting a top goal scorer and Hellebuyck is definitely worth it IMO


Its not a factor of Helley re-signing with the canes, its the canes will not re-sign him. He would be 31 and regressing his entire very large contract. Canes don’t do those kinds of contracts. Just like Hamilton, they would offer a deal that is worth what age regression says he will be over the length. Of course the player doesn’t sign it because some Gm will give a large amount until he is 38.

Again the canes aren’t going to trade for a goal scorer just because they can score. If they don’t fit the system, which connor clearly doesn’t, then he isn’t a target for us
5 juin 2023 à 12 h 59
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Its not a factor of Helley re-signing with the canes, its the canes will not re-sign him. He would be 31 and regressing his entire very large contract. Canes don’t do those kinds of contracts. Just like Hamilton, they would offer a deal that is worth what age regression says he will be over the length. Of course the player doesn’t sign it because some Gm will give a large amount until he is 38.

Again the canes aren’t going to trade for a goal scorer just because they can score. If they don’t fit the system, which connor clearly doesn’t, then he isn’t a target for us


Fair enough
7 juin 2023 à 11 h 23
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It’s as unrealistic to think the Canes would send this many futures out as it is that the Jets would trade both Hellebuyck and Connor in the same trade to the same team.

The value here isn’t terrible, and as mention by many people - it helps the Canes. It just isn’t the way the Canes do business.
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