Robertson doesn’t have value anymore bud. Easy no

St. Louis would be buying low, and as a rebuilding team that would be a smart play.

Vrana will turn into a player for them and they’ll resign him or they’ll trade him at the deadline and get more than this turd sandwich

Why are we giving up Timmins for nothing? We can send him down and see 0 of that cap hit

That's like saying Jake Neighbours doesn't have value anymore. They are virtually the same age. Robertson has better AHL stats and similar NHL stats but has been injured more.

Neighbour's and Robertson's values have both dropped but to say they don't have any value? They would for sure have value. I assume both prospects would be viewed very similar in terms of value by teams.

I still doubt ST louis does the trade though. They stole Vrana from Detroit. Yzerman shot Vrana out of Detroit in a cannon.

Eh sure why not

If Nylander is acquired it's to play with Lindholm.

CALGARY ISN'T TRADING LINDHOLM FOR NYLANDER. If they are trading for Nylander, its so they can play together. Plus we do not have a replacement center, so technically this trade COULD make us worse

Nylander is better and younger than Lindholm. Also way too much for Novak lol

Novak put up great numbers, is still young, and has a cheap cap hit. Plus Nashville probably won't want to trade him so the offer has to be outlandish.

Weird because I don’t see many Blues threads of fans wanting to trade Neighbors because we like his potential and basically every thread is Leaf’s wanting to trade Robertson…

Both teams are also in much different places. Leafs are all in and are trading picks and prospects like candy. St Louis is in a re-tool and asset collection phase.

Of our higher end prospects, Leaf fans tend to trade Robertson the most because of his injury history. But he isn't a lost cause yet. He has a ton of potential. Potential doesn't always pan out though.

His AAV definitely helps the cause but it's just so much for one player who had one good season.

What are you on about? Good grief, the logic pretzels you guys twist into. You should all teach yoga.





Hahahaha WHAT????? I'll have what you're smoking. Holy crap.

Do you remember what the Blues paid to get Vrana? A 7th and a nobody.

Vrana also has injury history and his time in Detroit was confusing. Plus he's a UFA at the end of next season. So flipping him for a younger prospect and a better pick is not a bad idea.

Vrana is a lottery ticket. He could be good or he could flame out. He played well for the blues at the end of last year so maybe there is hope he can regain his form. It would be bad for them to sell him now before the season even starts. Blues probably have little interest in a small NHL winger prospect who despite having good stats is always injured. Doesn't bode well for his NHL career when he is always injured and he is of small stature that makes it harder to succeed in the nhl. Also Robertson's injury is shoulder related and that makes it worrisome for Robertsson as his shot is his best asset.

Wow.

1 - What the Blues paid for him is 1000000000% irrelevant. Do you think you get a discount for that or something?

2 - Vrana did not have an injury history. He had one injury.

3 - His time in Detroit ended in Detroit. Another irrelevant non-factor.

4 - I never said Vrana could not be moved at some point this season. For now, he will remain a dirt cheap potential 30-goal scorer for the Blues. There's no rush to trade him for crap. Speaking of...

5 - Robertson is a small, slow winger made of glass, which is the last thing the Blues need in every possible way. Exactly nothing about him holds any value at all to the Blues. None. Zero. And a 3rd pushed off three drafts from now is about as tempting. This is a trash offer. Obviously.

If or when the Blues deal Vrana it will be for a far better return than this glop.

All this talk of his good stats is perplexing. It has taken him four full seasons and two levels to play in 86 games since signing. That's a dreadful stat. 35 NHL gp, 8 pts = not good stats. And that was with some very nice linemates.

That's a long diatribe Yogi moku.

It's not my fault some corrections need be extensive.

This is a pretty rational assessment.

Couple reasons though why I don’t see the Blues entertaining something like this.

1. Vrana fits our core age range pretty well. For now I think the Blues are looking to build around Thomas/Kyrou and hoping to have players develop with them. Even if it narrows the window a bit. We can’t really get out of having 5/6 vet contracts long term, nor are they bad players.

2. Blues are wanting to get competitive as quick as possible and really have the foundation to. As touched in above, there’s good reason to be optimistic about next season.

3. Vrana produced really well for us, and we got him at an extremely low cost. There’s really no reason to panic about not getting value out of Vrana. He’s purely found money and he was great for us. He also added a dynamic of speed to our group that really opened things up.

4. Robertson has serious injury concerns. He’s looked like a fantastic prospect, but every step of the way he’s been injury riddled. It’s fairly concerning with a guy with a smaller frame that isn’t a pure skill guy. I like Robertsons game, but I don’t see how he ever puts together a complete season because of his frame unfortunately.

5. If we’re out of the race at the trade deadline Vrana could seriously bring back a haul. I’m not sure what his off-ice issues were or if they’ve cleared up. But he’s a very young high end goal scorer with serious speed at a cap hit that’s affordable even without retention. Throw in retention and you’re looking at a guy who is very feasibly a 30 goal scorer at 1.3m on a cap hit. Every team can afford that and every team most likely will want to add goal scoring. The potential return could be very high.

There’s alot to like about Robertson, but there’s serious concern, and it’s not a position the Blues really need help on. He probably has a higher ceiling than a Neighbors or Dean, but has a pretty high probability of not being able to get past the injury concerns. I don’t think he has quite the impact a Bolduc or Snuggerud will have or look to have and the Blues already have these players. That also doesn’t factor in what happens this draft and doesn’t account for guys like Kasikamaki or Robertsson who are also pretty decent forward prospects the Blues have.

I think you’re going to have a hard time selling Robertson for what he could be because the likelihood he becomes an NHL regular is slowly looking less than the likelihood he can’t stay healthy enough to carve out a career unfortunatelynb

Flames decline, not trading pur 1C for a winger

Leafs fans have proposed this thousands of times, and everytime flames fans say its not gunna happen.

We are not trading Our 1C for a winger.

What if he doesn't commit to signing long-term with the flames?

first of all, that's "if", realistically I think we trade with colorado and get newhook + picks.
But as of rn, we're not trading Lindholm