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Trading Severson rights - some comps to use

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2023
Publié: 4 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
A player's UFA rights are not often traded. It seems it occurs with goalies more often than with skaters.
-- Husso, Niemi, Vokoun, Bryzgalov, CuJo, Richter, Belfour...all had UFA rights dealt.
-- Recent forwards were Goodrow, Hayes, Kopecky, Rolston...all getting late picks.
-- Scott Hartnell got a 1st (but was traded with a dman)
-- Keith Tkachuk got a 1st.
-- Mark Messier got a 4th (then resigned with the team that traded him)

Below are some dman comps to consider...all were pending UFAs dealt in period just before free agency opened. All signed with the new club.
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NJD
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
for Severson UFA rights
WPG
    Comp: Keith Yandle 2016

    2017 4th round pick
    2016 6th round pick
    2.
    NJD
    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
    Détails additionnels:
    for Severson UFA rights
    VAN
      Comp: Dan Boyle (2014)

      2015 5th round pick
      3.
      NJD
      1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
      Détails additionnels:
      for Severson UFA rights
      ANA
        Comp: Alex Goligoski (2016)

        2016 5th round pick
        4.
        NJD
        1. McGing, Hugh [Droits de RFA]
        2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (STL)
        Détails additionnels:
        for Severson UFA rights
        STL
          Comp: Mark Streit (2013)

          2014 4th round pick
          Shane Harper
          5.
          NJD
          1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
          Détails additionnels:
          for Severson UFA rights
          EDM
            Comp: Joel Edmundson (2020)

            2020 5th round pick
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            NJD
            1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
            Détails additionnels:
            for Severson UFA rights
            PIT
              Comp: Christian Ehrhoff (2011)

              2012 4th round pick
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              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 50
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              Ain't no way someone pays a 4th and 6th like the jets deal. Severson is not someone that is worth trading the picks unless you're fully confident he'd sign. The jets would not have that certainty so they don't trade for him
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 51
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              Quoting: Howie
              Ain't no way someone pays a 4th and 6th like the jets deal. Severson is not someone that is worth trading the picks unless you're fully confident he'd sign. The jets would not have that certainty so they don't trade for him


              you are missing the point completly.
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              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 51
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              Quoting: Howie
              Ain't no way someone pays a 4th and 6th like the jets deal. Severson is not someone that is worth trading the picks unless you're fully confident he'd sign. The jets would not have that certainty so they don't trade for him


              Who says they need full confidence and who says he wouldn't sign in Winnipeg?
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 52
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              i think jay bowmester was traded for more than all of these guys, a 3rd round pick and some roster dman i can remember who though.
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 53
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              Quoting: pretzelcoatl
              Who says they need full confidence and who says he wouldn't sign in Winnipeg?


              The fact that the team has 3 players in the top 7 of dailyfaceoff Trade Bait board. Why would he sign with the team going through all these changes and may not be a better team. He could also just want to see what options he has before choosing so he can get the money and location choice between the interested teams. Jets can't gamble more picks away for something like that.
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 55
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              Quoting: drambui
              you are missing the point completly.


              No I didn't I don't care if it's just comparable to previous deals. Winnipeg has been a popular destination to trade severson's rights for late picks so it's not this coming out of no where. Jets can't make the gamble and neither would severson so don't include them.
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 55
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              Quoting: Howie
              Ain't no way someone pays a 4th and 6th like the jets deal. Severson is not someone that is worth trading the picks unless you're fully confident he'd sign. The jets would not have that certainty so they don't trade for him


              These are just some examples of recent dmen who have had their right trades before hitting UFA. Eliotte Friedman said the NJ may sell Severson’s rights, so we have seen a few ACGMs suggesting such deals. These are just showing similar comps to help others pick the right value.

              (And the list of teams are just places I thought could be looking at RD).
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 58
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              These are just some examples of recent dmen who have had their right trades before hitting UFA. Eliotte Friedman said the NJ may sell Severson’s rights, so we have seen a few ACGMs suggesting such deals. These are just showing similar comps to help others pick the right value.

              (And the list of teams are just places I thought could be looking at RD).


              Jets would then have to make a trade with one of their nhl dmen and frankly we don't need more dmen making the logjam worse. We have 6 nhl starter dmen and 3 more that could play adding one more without subtracting some doesn't work. Jets also would maybe have to dump schmidt which spends more picks or forced to take a discount return on Dillon. It just doesn't work for the jets
              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 59
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              Quoting: drambui
              i think jay bowmester was traded for more than all of these guys, a 3rd round pick and some roster dman i can remember who though.


              Jordan Leopold, who was also pending UFA and did not initially sign, so technically hit UFA…but signed later. So I skipped over that one.
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              4 juin 2023 à 17 h 59
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              Jets would then have to make a trade with one of their nhl dmen and frankly we don't need more dmen making the logjam worse. We have 6 nhl starter dmen and 3 more that could play adding one more without subtracting some doesn't work. Jets also would maybe have to dump schmidt which spends more picks or forced to take a discount return on Dillon. It just doesn't work for the jets


              I think you missed the point.
              4 juin 2023 à 18 h 2
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              Quoting: Howie
              No I didn't I don't care if it's just comparable to previous deals. Winnipeg has been a popular destination to trade severson's rights for late picks so it's not this coming out of no where. Jets can't make the gamble and neither would severson so don't include them.


              at first i only though you missed the point, now im 100% sure
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              4 juin 2023 à 18 h 13
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              The Blues have no use or cap for Severson.
              4 juin 2023 à 18 h 18
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              The Blues have no use or cap for Severson.


              No really relevant here. Just showing comps. All these could be “anywhere” trades.
               
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