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Équipe: 2023-24 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2023
Publié: 3 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Post TDL, Rico is traded at the tdl, Gibby in the offseason, Fantilli goes back to NCAA and signs after his szn. Minty could get a look at the end of the yr too, but no need to rush him
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1950 000 $
1800 000 $
22 100 000 $
88 500 000 $
89 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Gibson, John
Détails additionnels:
He's been outplayed by his backup for the past 4 szns, I'd take this in a heartbeat lmao
2.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Some contending team needing a 2/3C
COL
  1. Henrique, Adam (2 912 500 $ retained)
3.
ANA
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Assuming Murray isn't going on LTIR, I don't think his contract will cost a first straight up to dump, but move back roughly a round, similar to the Mrazek deal (but more expensive)
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
4.
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
28+33 have 311 draft value, pick 17 has 309, so it's similar to trading down 6 spots to move Myers, probably a lot, could add some later picks or smth
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $70 258 334 $0 $3 507 500 $13 241 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Fantilli, Adam
925 000 $925 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 295 000 $1 295 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
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425 000 $425 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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844 167 $844 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1

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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 46
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Like the Henrique to Colorado thought. Gibson....I think Buffalo can do well in UFA and not have to give to give up a first.
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 50
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laugh Sorry but Patrik Allvin isn't dropping down 17 spots in very deep draft, Just to unload one year of Tyler Myers at $6,000,000 per. He might drop down to the Tampa 19th overall pick with Chicago. But that's about it.

FYI Detroit owns the 17 pick Vancouver has the 11 so the you'd need to add at least another 3rd round pick.
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 50
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Aside from the fact that you're using a draft pick value chart from 2016 and there are two more recent ones, the Vancouver pick is #11 overall, not #17.

I like the other moves but I'm not too sure that any of the other teams would co-operate with us.
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 51
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That's gonna be a no from buffalo dawg
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3 juin 2023 à 20 h 58
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Aside from the fact that you're using a draft pick value chart from 2016 and there are two more recent ones, the Vancouver pick is #11 overall, not #17.

I like the other moves but I'm not too sure that any of the other teams would co-operate with us.


I haven't seen the recent ones, I tried looking but couldn't find ones (from someone I trust/also had a writeup) and yes, I am aware VAN has 11, not 17. I'm saying it's roughly equivalent value to trading down to 17, which is a higher pick than 19
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3 juin 2023 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That's gonna be a no from buffalo dawg


Agreed, I was trying to get an argument with other ducks fans bc I saw one say BUF's first+some other decent pieces was an insulting offer for Gibby and Rico, and wanted to point out that just the first would be an absolute steal

(May not have been BUF's first, I could be misremembering, but I thought it was)
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 2
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laugh Sorry but Patrik Allvin isn't dropping down 17 spots in very deep draft, Just to unload one year of Tyler Myers at $6,000,000 per. He might drop down to the Tampa 19th overall pick with Chicago. But that's about it.

FYI Detroit owns the 17 pick Vancouver has the 11 so the you'd need to add at least another 3rd round pick.


I was saying the 2 picks have roughly the same value as pick 17, not that they were pick 17 or anything like that
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 3
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About 20 teams want Murray plus a 1st. Should tell you a lot about that deal.
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3 juin 2023 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: Dan10900
I haven't seen the recent ones, I tried looking but couldn't find ones (from someone I trust/also had a writeup) and yes, I am aware VAN has 11, not 17. I'm saying it's roughly equivalent value to trading down to 17, which is a higher pick than 19


https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Includes an accompanying article explaining methodology

@nhlfan10506 is the most recent source for what I believe is the Athletic's chart pre-Vegas expansion
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About 20 teams want Murray plus a 1st. Should tell you a lot about that deal.


That's why I added the 2nd, I've always thought it was a bit weird for just a first
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: Dan10900
I was saying the 2 picks have roughly the same value as pick 17, not that they were pick 17 or anything like that


Yeah but since Vancouver holds the 11 you'd need to add at least another 3rd to equal out the value. 28th+33rd isn't getting you the 11th. Plus Allvin isn't dropping down no 17 spots just to unload one year of Tyler Myers.
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3 juin 2023 à 21 h 15
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I would think the Ducks would be better off dealing Rico in the offseason. Given his recent injury history and age, there is good reason to think he might not make it to the TDL healthy.
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3 juin 2023 à 21 h 21
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There’s only been one season when Gibson’s backup has been better than him in the last 5 seasons. That was last season when Stolarz had a very good season. Other than that Gibson’s numbers have been either better or basically the same as his back up.
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 24
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Includes an accompanying article explaining methodology

nhlfan10506 is the most recent source for what I believe is the Athletic's chart pre-Vegas expansion


Ty ty, not a huge fan of the methodology, I prefer one that uses the results rather than value, tho for this purpose the actual value actually makes sense. Tho from this chart, 28+33 ~15, so it's an even better deal for VAN lol. I also threw together my own value chart (using WAR for guys drafted between 2017 and 2015 or 2016) and 28+33 ~5 lol
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 27
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Yeah but since Vancouver holds the 11 you'd need to add at least another 3rd to equal out the value. 28th+33rd isn't getting you the 11th. Plus Allvin isn't dropping down no 17 spots just to unload one year of Tyler Myers.


17 is a better pick than 19. Those 2 picks have approximately the same value as 17. You just said you'd do it for 19.
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 28
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I would think the Ducks would be better off dealing Rico in the offseason. Given his recent injury history and age, there is good reason to think he might not make it to the TDL healthy.


That's fair, but I doubt they'd do that irl
3 juin 2023 à 21 h 30
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That's fair, but I doubt they'd do that irl


Yeah, lots of teams think they'll make bank at the TDL so hang onto most of their expiring UFA's that have value
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3 juin 2023 à 22 h 32
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San Jose traded the 2022 11th overall pick for the 27th overall, 34th overall, and 45th overall.
3 juin 2023 à 22 h 38
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The Ducks maybe have three players I would trade that first round pick for and none of them are Gibson. Of course none of them would be moved for Buffalo’s 1st rounder alone.
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3 juin 2023 à 22 h 39
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San Jose traded the 2022 11th overall pick for the 27th overall, 34th overall, and 45th overall.


28+33 ~ 27+34, Myers albatross ~ 45
3 juin 2023 à 22 h 40
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28+33 ~ 27+34, Myers albatross ~ 45


1 year of Myers doesn't take a mid 2nd round pick to dump. Canucks don't need 1 year of cap space. They don't have top players to sign this offseason anyway. Not like this UFA class is particularly strong either
3 juin 2023 à 23 h 12
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1 year of Myers doesn't take a mid 2nd round pick to dump. Canucks don't need 1 year of cap space. They don't have top players to sign this offseason anyway. Not like this UFA class is particularly strong either


The Canucks are over the cap for next year already, yes they have players to move, but if they chose to move Myers he could probably get close to a late first considering he brings next to nothing on the ice, and makes 6 mil, the same as Marleau did lol
3 juin 2023 à 23 h 25
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The Canucks are over the cap for next year already, yes they have players to move, but if they chose to move Myers he could probably get close to a late first considering he brings next to nothing on the ice, and makes 6 mil, the same as Marleau did lol


They are not over the cap for next year. Takes like 2 minutes of research to find out that Poolman + Pearson to LTIR immediately frees up 5.75 mil. You do realize that GM's in this league value big RHD that can eat a lot of minutes, regardless if they are good or not right? How do you think Gudbranson got 4.5x4 this past offseason? It would cost next to nothing to lose Myers as he is big, can play a lot of minutes, only has 1 year left on his contract. Seems to me you are not very up to date on the NHL
4 juin 2023 à 0 h 58
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Includes an accompanying article explaining methodology

nhlfan10506 is the most recent source for what I believe is the Athletic's chart pre-Vegas expansion


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