Flyers add in konecny, farabee and Forester to the wings trade to counter the fact that the red wings are now going to have to healthy scratch provorov since they already have 5 NHL ready LD but I guess we need another one

Not a fit for redwings

Colorado accepts

Keep him lol

Detroit currently have the following LD under contract:

Ben Chiarot
Jake Walman
Olli Määttä
Albert Johansson
William Wallinder
Eemil Viro
Donovan Sebrango
Jared McIsaac
Simon Edvinsson

We also have Shai Buium, Tnias Mathurin, and Cooper Moore on our reserve list.

What on earth makes you think we would be interested in trading for yet another LD?

Uh, the fact that i want that first round pick from the islanders maybe

Hey man, if nobody mentioned it to you yet I don’t think Provy would be a good fit for the Wings

The fact that you want our 1st round pick should make us want another LD.
There's something wrong with how your logic works.

Oh yeah, 32 year old Ben Chariot and journeyman Matta are definitely better than a 25 plus minutes a night all situations in his prime defender. Move Chariots ass to the right side then and solidify the top 4. No team winning a stanley cup with your current top 4 ill tell you that.

Walman is an unknown at this point...
Does Sieder take the next step?
How much longer is Stevie Y gonna be patient with all your defenders with "potential"?

Haha thanks, didn't quite get it but i appreciate the follow up.

it's hard to understand levity through typing, I understand your lack of ability here.

5 NHL ready left handed D? Hmmm, I think you missed the day where they taught counting in elementary school bud

COL does that

Walman
Chariot
Maata
Edvinsson
Johansson

That's 5 hoser

This shows you know 0 about the wings, have a great day, not gonna argue with someone who knows 0 about the Red Wings and claims that this trade makes sense for them. You're literally trading them the only position they don't need out of 6 positions

rock on!

hahah, NHL ready he says.

At this point, I'm going to part with my fellow Avs fans and say, "No, thanks." Hayes isn't a fit in Colorado and they can't afford to trade an asset like that without getting someone that fits perfectly.

1stoff. Wallman performed very well last year and is a great fit for Seider, saying he is unproven after his year is just your way of trying to make your case.
2nd, taking on another player when you have other players not as good but NHL caliber is fine, but what do Wings do with other players they have already signed?
3rd, my god Evidisson is only in his 1st year playing in NA. give it a chance. It is not like he is 25,, the kid is 20 years old. Also if he did not get hurt, Johansson was the guy to get a call up at the end of the year.
4th, get another LHD defenseman and then putting Charoit on RH side is like using a band aid for a bullet hole, does not make sense. IF we trade that NYI pick it will be a package for a RHD defenseman, Young and with term

No, me saying unproven is exactly what the guy is since, if you wanna go off his stats so far, is not a top pairing d man. However, if you'd like to consider his upside in the future, you go with the term unproven. Unproven doesn't mean bad, it means there's a lack of experience, which there truly is.

My whole point is that Stevie Y has a plan, and now it's what, year 5? At some point there's gonna need to be that first year where you go for it. if it's not year 6, then how long is this supposed to take and when is enough enough. What i'm saying is, is a top 4 of Provy/Walman-Seider, Walman/Provy-Chiarot, better than what you have now. Chiarot is fine on the right side as long as he someone competent playing with him on the other side, who Provy or Walman (potentially) are. Objectively, i think you need to realize, that it is. It's a contending top 4. Now, doesn't that also allow you to fill your third pairing with maybe a guy you had on your second pairing? So in effect, bolstering your entire d corps?

Listen, i know you signed guys, but you have a system and you have injuries and you have chemistry issues and it's good to have depth, especially with no one really being a harbinger on the cap. It's one thing if you think he's a luxury, fine, you don't want him. But if you want to better, this is you guys getting better. Or, you can continue to wait for the guy who you draft 18th overall to be ready in 3-4 years to take on an every night NHL role.

Avs decline and it's not close.

No, it is close.

Nah it really isn't.

It really is

Nah it's at least a year out if not more.