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Marner for Jones

Créé par: tmlfan_1
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2023
Publié: 29 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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  1. Jones, Seth
  2. Raddysh, Taylor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
CHI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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29 mai 2023 à 2 h 22
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Don’t know how other Hawks fans feel about Jones, but it’s a no from me.
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29 mai 2023 à 2 h 55
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Hawks easily pass
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29 mai 2023 à 3 h 16
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Jones is overpaid and he has 7 years left. I wouldn’t take him for free.
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29 mai 2023 à 3 h 36
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Seth Jones analytical numbers are awful, whatever Jones was he’s not that same player.

You just made the Maple Leaf’s much worse.
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29 mai 2023 à 7 h 30
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Hawks easily pass


Lol?
29 mai 2023 à 8 h 27
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Zero Chance CHI does that.
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29 mai 2023 à 11 h 44
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Sharks simply are not taking a cap dump to move up 8 spots and surrender a high 4th. Why do incessant Leafs fans keep proposing this bad offer. Dumb.
29 mai 2023 à 11 h 59
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Lol?


Are you questioning whether you are laughing or not?
29 mai 2023 à 14 h 56
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Are you questioning whether you are laughing or not?


Trying to see if you're joking or not
29 mai 2023 à 19 h 23
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Trying to see if you're joking or not


I think it's pretty clear a rebuilding team isn't interested in Marner for a number of reasons.
29 mai 2023 à 19 h 32
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Quoting: ChiHawk
I think it's pretty clear a rebuilding team isn't interested in Marner for a number of reasons.


Do tell why they'd be so much more interested in a 28 y/o Seth Jones over a 26 y/o Mitch Marner
30 mai 2023 à 1 h 22
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Do tell why they'd be so much more interested in a 28 y/o Seth Jones over a 26 y/o Mitch Marner


Contract status Hawks don't need a guy for only 2 years, RHD guys are harder to find and a hole in the Hawks system, keeping the 1st round pick , and lastly keeping Raddysh. The ONLY reason the Hawks would take Marner is to retain 50% and flip him, but his stats will suffer on a depleted Hawks team and HUGE gamble to suggest they can get more than they give up.
30 mai 2023 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Contract status Hawks don't need a guy for only 2 years, RHD guys are harder to find and a hole in the Hawks system, keeping the 1st round pick , and lastly keeping Raddysh. The ONLY reason the Hawks would take Marner is to retain 50% and flip him, but his stats will suffer on a depleted Hawks team and HUGE gamble to suggest they can get more than they give up.


Regardless, Leafs don't consider this. Marner is so, so much more of an asset than Jones
30 mai 2023 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Regardless, Leafs don't consider this. Marner is so, so much more of an asset than Jones


Not if he doesn't resign he's not worth more than Jones, Raddysh and a 1st round pick, especially not to a rebuilding team
31 mai 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Not if he doesn't resign he's not worth more than Jones, Raddysh and a 1st round pick, especially not to a rebuilding team


2 years of Marner is worth a lot more than that, yes.
31 mai 2023 à 22 h 52
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Quoting: LukaTAG
2 years of Marner is worth a lot more than that, yes.


Not to a rebuilding he isn't. Hawks would have to flip him with 1 year left on his agreement and retained for more then Jones, Raddysh and a 1st round pick.

Bottom line, this has zero legs and what everyone is saying on here with comments and boosts to comments
31 mai 2023 à 23 h 34
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Not to a rebuilding he isn't. Hawks would have to flip him with 1 year left on his agreement and retained for more then Jones, Raddysh and a 1st round pick.

Bottom line, this has zero legs and what everyone is saying on here with comments and boosts to comments


Which is why I said that regardless, leafs done consider this.
31 mai 2023 à 23 h 36
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Not. Gonna. Happen.

Maybe, Jones and the 1st overall to Toronto for nadda. That’s how bad Jones’ contract is.
1 juin 2023 à 1 h 49
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Not. Gonna. Happen.

Maybe, Jones and the 1st overall to Toronto for nadda. That’s how bad Jones’ contract is.


LOL Matthews isn't worth the 1st OA pick, nor is his future contract
1 juin 2023 à 9 h 53
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LOL Matthews isn't worth the 1st OA pick, nor is his future contract


9.5 million over max term buys you almost any player in UFA. It’s a lot of money wasted on Jones. Sure I was being sarcastic about the #1 overall. Bedard is a star. He compares to Kucherov IMO. 125 points. That said it would take multiple firsts to take on Jones. If Jones was tradable the Hawks would have done it last year.
1 juin 2023 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: Newtown
9.5 million over max term buys you almost any player in UFA. It’s a lot of money wasted on Jones. Sure I was being sarcastic about the #1 overall. Bedard is a star. He compares to Kucherov IMO. 125 points. That said it would take multiple firsts to take on Jones. If Jones was tradable the Hawks would have done it last year.


Jones is tradable and at $7.5M he's a deal that plenty of teams would take and give up assets for. Hawks need a veteran guy on the blue line and they aren't about to retain $2M per year for 7 years taking up a valuable retention slot and $14M in dead cap space. Hawks therefore have not shopped Jones, so it's not that he's "not tradable" it's that they aren't going to retain for 7 years.
1 juin 2023 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Jones is tradable and at $7.5M he's a deal that plenty of teams would take and give up assets for. Hawks need a veteran guy on the blue line and they aren't about to retain $2M per year for 7 years taking up a valuable retention slot and $14M in dead cap space. Hawks therefore have not shopped Jones, so it's not that he's "not tradable" it's that they aren't going to retain for 7 years.


I wouldn’t want him for a penny over 6. Even at 6 there are better D.
1 juin 2023 à 13 h 28
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I wouldn’t want him for a penny over 6. Even at 6 there are better D.


You must not watch him enough then. I'd easily rather have jones at 6 than Reilly at 7.5, who for all his offense is porous defensively as we see in the playoffs.
 
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