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1C for 3OA

Créé par: Civil_Eng_PE
Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2023
Publié: 28 mai 2023
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Jarmo has said that the only way he trades the 3OA pick is for a 25 or younger 1C who is under contract for 5+ years. Only options I see are Aho (If he would sign an extension) or Pettersson (also if he would sign an extension). With that I have come up with the 2 trades below.

I do not think these are going to happen but these are the ONLY players Jarmo has said he would trade the pick for. Lindholm is too old. Matthews could be an option but I think its the least likely. Edmonton is not trading their 2 stars.

Let me know your thoughts!
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28 mai 2023 à 19 h 56
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Do not know why my description is not showing up but its the following:

Jarmo has said that the only way he trades the 3OA pick is for a 25 or younger 1C who is under contract for 5+ years. Only options I see are Aho (If he would sign an extension) or Pettersson (also if he would sign an extension). With that I have come up with the 2 trades below.

I do not think these are going to happen but these are the ONLY players Jarmo has said he would trade the pick for. Lindholm is too old. Matthews could be an option but I think its the least likely. Edmonton is not trading their 2 stars.

Let me know your thoughts!
28 mai 2023 à 19 h 59
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Canes tell you to pound sand. Canes are in their cup window, why should they move their 1C for a pick, just to select a guy who likely doesn’t make an impact for at least 2 years? Canes aren’t going to go back into a rebuild just because the Jackets want a 1C now.
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28 mai 2023 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
Do not know why my description is not showing up but its the following:

Jarmo has said that the only way he trades the 3OA pick is for a 25 or younger 1C who is under contract for 5+ years. Only options I see are Aho (If he would sign an extension) or Pettersson (also if he would sign an extension). With that I have come up with the 2 trades below.

I do not think these are going to happen but these are the ONLY players Jarmo has said he would trade the pick for. Lindholm is too old. Matthews could be an option but I think its the least likely. Edmonton is not trading their 2 stars.

Let me know your thoughts!


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CAR won't want to take a step back, and VAN would need a really good reason to move Pettersson, which would probably mean adding Jiricek and more. I don't think CBJ would agree to what the demands would be assuming that talks don't get immediately shutdown.

Matthews is the most likely target imo, and even then the chances are slim.
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 2
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Canucks aren’t trading Petey
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 3
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We aren’t trying to rebuild so the Canes pass.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 3
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Canes pass. If it was 2nd, I'd do it, but Carlsson doesn't have the potential to be what Aho is right now. Fantilli does. Michkov might but his KHL commitments, just no reason to
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 4
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Quoting: evelutions2
Canes tell you to pound sand. Canes are in their cup window, why should they move their 1C for a pick, just to select a guy who likely doesn’t make an impact for at least 2 years? Canes aren’t going to go back into a rebuild just because the Jackets want a 1C now.


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CAR won't want to take a step back, and VAN would need a really good reason to move Pettersson, which would probably mean adding Jiricek and more. I don't think CBJ would agree to what the demands would be assuming that talks don't get immediately shutdown.


Yeah, I see Van as more of a chance to blow it up then the Canes. Only way Canes do it is if Aho and them cant come to an agreement on an extension. But from what I have read Aho loves his current situation so its very unlikely.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 6
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Elias Pettersson > Leo Carlsson.

Sebastian Aho > Leo Carlsson.

Neither Carolina or Vancouver make those offers.
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Canes pass. If it was 2nd, I'd do it, but Carlsson doesn't have the potential to be what Aho is right now. Fantilli does. Michkov might but his KHL commitments, just no reason to


A bit premature to definitively say what each of these players careers will look like.

inb4 Aho for 10 1st round picks + McDavid
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 6
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Know that this is more of a hypothetical rather than realistically expecting a move like this, but I just don't see how one makes sense.

Carolina is in a window right now so trading their best forward for a guy that's not gonna play in the NHL this year even if CBJ added considerably just doesn't make sense for them as a team.

Vancouver moving EP makes more sense, but an offer like that isn't enough for Vancouver and Columbus can't afford to give up what Vancouver would want added without gutting their prospect pool too much for the deal to make sense on their end.
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Canes pass. If it was 2nd, I'd do it, but Carlsson doesn't have the potential to be what Aho is right now. Fantilli does. Michkov might but his KHL commitments, just no reason to


So lets say Fantilli falls to 3 cause the Ducks take Michkov? At that point its probs a mute point cause CBJ just jump on Fantilli but them signing Johnny last summer makes me think they want to compete now and not wait.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 8
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Also kind of made this so people stop offering Lindholm and Marner for the 3OA. Jamro has said it wont happen.
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 9
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So lets say Fantilli falls to 3 cause the Ducks take Michkov? At that point its probs a mute point cause CBJ just jump on Fantilli but them signing Johnny last summer makes me think they want to compete now and not wait.


If Fantilli is available, different. I don't think I could be mad at Waddell for that if he knew Aho was not going to re-sign. That said, there's no way to replace Aho. There's no noe in free agency so he's going into the trade market. I don't think he could say no to Fantilli, but I also think that he'd have to have 65 other things lined up to even make it possible.
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 11
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A bit premature to definitively say what each of these players careers will look like.

inb4 Aho for 10 1st round picks + McDavid


You think JT Miller is worth his contract, you don't get to say anything here

Yes it's a big premature, but when you're moving someone whose in the top 10 C conversation and undeniably top 15, you need to at least have the hope down the line that you may get a player of a similar quality. Carlsson doesn't have that.
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If Fantilli is available, different. I don't think I could be mad at Waddell for that if he knew Aho was not going to re-sign. That said, there's no way to replace Aho. There's no noe in free agency so he's going into the trade market. I don't think he could say no to Fantilli, but I also think that he'd have to have 65 other things lined up to even make it possible.


Yeah that sounds about right.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 13
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Stop overthinking this, just draft Carlsson.

Also don’t trade 3rd OA for a pending UFA, that 100% won’t work.
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Stop overthinking this, just draft Carlsson.

Also don’t trade 3rd OA for a pending UFA, that 100% won’t work.


Drafting Carlsson is 100% what is going to a happen. Just like to look at hypotheticals. Going to be another rough season next year IMO. Just want to be good sooner rather than later : (
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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What would it take for Vancouver to trade Pettersson? Nothing that Columbus has.
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What would it take for Vancouver to trade Pettersson? Nothing that Columbus has.


Thats being a little prude lol. We do have the 2nd best prospect pool in the NHL and the 3rd OA this year. We have enough to trade for Petey
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If the Canucks were to consider trading Petey to Columbus it starts with 2 of Johnson, Jiricek, and 3OA. Then they’d probably want 1 or 2 smaller assets added on as well
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If the Canucks were to consider trading Petey to Columbus it starts with 2 of Johnson, Jiricek, and 3OA. Then they’d probably want 1 or 2 smaller assets added on as well


This would be the most likely package.
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You think JT Miller is worth his contract, you don't get to say anything here

Yes it's a big premature, but when you're moving someone whose in the top 10 C conversation and undeniably top 15, you need to at least have the hope down the line that you may get a player of a similar quality. Carlsson doesn't have that.


Aho isn’t quite in the top 10 C discussion, and I think you could argue he’s not top 15. He’s in the 13-16 range imo, but you could argue all of McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Draisaitl, Pettersson, Crosby, Barkov, Hughes, Point, Bergeron, Thompson, Stutzle, Eichel, Hischier, Hintz, and Zibanejad are better, which puts him outside of the top 15
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Thats being a little prude lol. We do have the 2nd best prospect pool in the NHL and the 3rd OA this year. We have enough to trade for Petey


It's very likely he'll be our next captain and is a proven elite player. We're not trading him for prospects.
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This would be the most likely package.


The package that you offered? Or the one I suggested with 2 of those 3 pieces?

If it’s 3 OA, Boqvist, and Foudy the Canucks would pass quite easily
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The package that you offered? Or the one I suggested with 2 of those 3 pieces?

If it’s 3 OA, Boqvist, and Foudy the Canucks would pass quite easily


Yours! Sorry for not clarifying that
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