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Youth with Guentzel on the way out

Créé par: gpmack95
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2023
Publié: 28 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 650 000 $
21 850 000 $
21 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
35 000 000 $
43 500 000 $
13 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
44 100 000 $
21 900 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Hanifin, Noah
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. O'Connor, Drew [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Before anyway says trading Jake is a bad idea or Sid wouldn’t approve— FLA trades two top players last offseason and it worked out for them. Sid got who he wanted to stay (Malkin & Letang), the new GM owes nothing to Sid or Jake. CGY needs a goal scorer and PIT needs defense.
2.
PIT
  1. Fischer, Christian [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Rutta, Jan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
4.
LAK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
5.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
DET
  1. Petry, Jeff (1 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
DET moves up spots and gets a two year stop gap to
play both special teams and eat minutes while they draft someone and develops them
6.
PIT
  1. Geekie, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
SEA
  1. Smith, Ty [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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Logo de ARI
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Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de PIT
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Logo de VGK
Logo de TOR
Logo de PIT
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 712 675 $0 $0 $3 787 325 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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28 mai 2023 à 12 h 43
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You could probably get more for #14

Also I probably take that Detroit deal. With the retention it makes it plausible.
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28 mai 2023 à 12 h 46
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Can we please stop with the Petry to Detroit trades, furthermore he has value, we don't pay for him with the 14th overall. No need for Tarasanko, Nylander will be a fine fit on the second line. And I don't know my feelings about the Calgary trade.
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28 mai 2023 à 12 h 55
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Yeah I can see Detroit doing that.
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 0
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I don't see the reason to add DOC in the Jake trade, especially if the goal is to get younger. We need more DOC's in our lineup.
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: PensGMwannabe
I don't see the reason to add DOC in the Jake trade, especially if the goal is to get younger. We need more DOC's in our lineup.


True but CGY will need someone to replace Dube and Dube is young as well
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 10
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I like this, although I’m pretty sure if we buy out Carter in his final year we don’t get any cap relief? So at that point would be better off the scratch him and use him when needed?
28 mai 2023 à 13 h 11
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Quoting: JarredBell94
I like this, although I’m pretty sure if we buy out Carter in his final year we don’t get any cap relief? So at that point would be better off the scratch him and use him when needed?

correct but i want him gone in general. they will always play him and the drama around him was annoying. just get him away
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 14
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correct but i want him gone in general. they will always play him and the drama around him was annoying. just get him away


I do too, but the drama was in the fan base. Not on the team. I feel a buyout just handicaps us more than health bombing him
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 22
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If we move Jake, we're selling. Simple as that. We cannot replace Jake's production and impact as easily as we can find someone who can do what Hanifin does. Tarasenko and Barbashev do not make up for the loss of Zucker and Guentzel at all. Not a fan of that 2nd line regardless, considering Malkin might be the best defensively on that line.

Petry has positive value and I'm tired of pretending he doesn't. I do not think Mayfield or Durzi can handle 1RHD responsibilities if Letang is out for a while. Petry did for a time.

I think the goalie duo is too old and injury prone to be the duo for a competitor. Jarry has one year with injury issues and all of a sudden we'd rather start a goalie 5ish years older with a long history of injuries, and then have an even older backup? I'd rather take my chances with Jars.
28 mai 2023 à 13 h 24
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Wings would do that. The retention makes the difference.
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 31
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I don't mind that for the Flames. Especially if we combine it with moving one of Toffoli/Mangiapane so there are more roster spots for the likes of Pelletier, Coronato, and Ruzicka in the top 9 on the wings.
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28 mai 2023 à 13 h 58
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I add my voice to the almost unanimous chorus of Yesses in what is a VERY good ACGM. It's rare to see so many moves that are both realistic and foreseeable. Really nicely done!

My only potential criticism would be that the picks might be going the wrong way in the Seattle deal. But I could be wrong, and it's such a minor point -- who cares?
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28 mai 2023 à 14 h 11
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Everything looks good. Guentzel simply will make too much money in 2024 as a UFA to fit in the cap and Rust full NMC clause means it's Jake the odd man out.

Quoting: Lancebmx
You could probably get more for #14

Also I probably take that Detroit deal. With the retention it makes it plausible.


Its over the draft value chart but you always need to overpay to move up. Maybe add another 4th as Mtl is flush with picks this year.
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28 mai 2023 à 16 h 4
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Yes, you could get more for 14. And the Seattle deal is a bust, Geekie sucks. Better off just playing DOC at center, at least he can move his feet and knows where his D zone is.
28 mai 2023 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: JarredBell94
I like this, although I’m pretty sure if we buy out Carter in his final year we don’t get any cap relief? So at that point would be better off the scratch him and use him when needed?

Quoting: gpmack95
correct but i want him gone in general. they will always play him and the drama around him was annoying. just get him away

We can replace Dube internally, especially if we are adding a winger in Guentzel. We'd need to get a defenseman before another winger.

What tweaks would need to be made to the picks to build around Guentzel/Smith & Hanifin/Dube?
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28 mai 2023 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Lunatik
We can replace Dube internally, especially if we are adding a winger in Guentzel. We'd need to get a defenseman before another winger.

What tweaks would need to be made to the picks to build around Guentzel/Smith & Hanifin/Dube?


PIT would ask for 1st instead of 2nd
 
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