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Créé par: RFS_90
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023
Publié: 26 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3775 000 $
3850 000 $
3775 000 $
1925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
1950 000 $
1775 000 $
34 850 000 $
1925 000 $
1925 000 $
21 615 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
43 250 000 $
2850 000 $
1775 000 $
1800 000 $
1905 000 $
12 000 000 $
11 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Hayes, Kevin (1 500 000 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Ambrosio, Colby [Liste de réserve]
  2. Merkley, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Bastian, Nathan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $78 886 429 $637 500 $0 $4 613 571 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 071 429 $2 071 429 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
1 615 000 $1 615 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
987 500 $987 500 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA

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26 mai 2023 à 16 h 53
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I'm still not sure Hayes is the right guy for the Avs; seems like the price is more attractive than the player. Doubt Malinski gets on the roster next year. Can't see the Avs trading Girard for a 4th-liner and picks; they aren't looking to trade him so the offer is going to have to be good. ERod is said to be asking for $4.75M.
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26 mai 2023 à 17 h 10
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That’s selling way way low on Girard. Bastian is a guy l Nieto is much better.
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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 0
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I'm not sure I'd want the Devils to even claim Girard on waivers at this point in time if the possibility were to present itself, to say nothing of trading picks and Nathan Bastian for him.
Between SIegenthaler, Hughes and Bahl the Devils LHD is set for the foreseeable future anyway.

There could be another taker for Girard around the league though, I could see the Sabres offer up a 2nd rd pick for him if you're lucky.
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 29
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Quoting: Tintin
I'm not sure I'd want the Devils to even claim Girard on waivers at this point in time if the possibility were to present itself, to say nothing of trading picks and Nathan Bastian for him.
Between SIegenthaler, Hughes and Bahl the Devils LHD is set for the foreseeable future anyway.

There could be another taker for Girard around the league though, I could see the Sabres offer up a 2nd rd pick for him if you're lucky.


L take... Sam Girard is a top 4 D on an incredibly good contract... If anything I undersold him here. Girard has the ability to play the right side... so does Luke Hughes.
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: Xqb15a
That’s selling way way low on Girard. Bastian is a guy l Nieto is much better.


Nieto is not better than Bastian, and Bastian is five years younger with team control... There's value in that... This trade is probably still too low for G, but don't undersell how good Bastian is/can be.
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 53
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Nieto is not better than Bastian, and Bastian is five years younger with team control... There's value in that... This trade is probably still too low for G, but don't undersell how good Bastian is/can be.

Bastian is 25 has 46pts in his career. Are you really going to try and sell the difference between him and a top 4 25yr old dman locked up for 4 years who literally averages 30pts a season and plays 20 minutes a game is a 2nd and 3rd. You need to reevaluate how you value players. Guys like Bastian are readily available while top 4 dman are worth a lot just look at what Hronek fetched in a trade.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
I'm still not sure Hayes is the right guy for the Avs; seems like the price is more attractive than the player. Doubt Malinski gets on the roster next year. Can't see the Avs trading Girard for a 4th-liner and picks; they aren't looking to trade him so the offer is going to have to be good. ERod is said to be asking for $4.75M.


AFP Analytics has Rodrigues projected at 3 X $3.75M... I gave him an extra year of stability for $500K on the cap. I wouldn't sleep on Sam Malinski. He's not a 20 year old rookie... He's a 24 year old NCAA Captain out of Cornell, who put up strong numbers from the blue line and had 10 points in 14 games for the Eagles after signing.... He was 2nd on the team in scoring in the playoffs..... as a rookie blue-liner. He could very easily have a spot on the team come October, if EJ doesn't return.

Kevin Hayes is precisely what the Avs are looking for. John Tortorella moved him from his natural position at C to LW, and bumped him down to the 3rd line after the team decided to embark on a rebuild so he could give younger players more minutes... Even then Hayes outscored what was JT Compher's career year. He lacks defensively for sure... but that's not nearly the concern it is in this situation, playing alongside two elite defensive wingers in Rodrigues and Nichushkin. He has great hands, plays with good pace, and is money on the PP. He's also likely the best C they can acquire without giving up a 1st round pick... and given the state of their prospect pool, I would imagine keeping that pick would be the ideal scenario. I can't see a world in which Winnipeg or Washington are willing to eat any salary for Kuznetsov or Scheifele, especially without a 1st rounder going the other way.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 5
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Interesting offer for the Flyers to think about but I don’t think it’s enough with that much retained on Hayes
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Bastian is 25 has 46pts in his career. Are you really going to try and sell the difference between him and a top 4 25yr old dman locked up for 4 years who literally averages 30pts a season and plays 20 minutes a game is a 2nd and 3rd. You need to reevaluate how you value players. Guys like Bastian are readily available while top 4 dman are worth a lot just look at what Hronek fetched in a trade.


I think you're undervaluing how good Bastian actually is... he's a big body who skates well, has decent hands, and is a very good penalty killer. For a team that ranked in the bottom half of the NHL in PK%, he's an attractive add under team control. On an 82 game pace, he would've outscored Cogliano, Nieto, and O'Connor... All that said, I would certainly be willing to take more coming the other way from New Jersey...
26 mai 2023 à 20 h 21
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Where would you put Girard into...

Siegenthaler -- Hamilton
Hughes -- Marino
Bahl -- Nemec

...and who gets bumped?

NJD has plenty of puck-moving. And our GM has said he wants "long, mobile" dmen.

I think the value of the trade is fine, just not right team.

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26 mai 2023 à 20 h 28
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Flyers won’t want Merkley, he’s a head case, talented but a huge ego. Not the kind of player that will listen to Torts
27 mai 2023 à 12 h 14
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Flyers won’t want Merkley, he’s a head case, talented but a huge ego. Not the kind of player that will listen to Torts


They literally have Tony DeAngelo, and traded for Brendan Lemieux... Both of whom are way bigger head cases...
27 mai 2023 à 12 h 19
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Going to have to give up a 1st for Hayes
27 mai 2023 à 18 h 6
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Quoting: RFS_90
They literally have Tony DeAngelo, and traded for Brendan Lemieux... Both of whom are way bigger head cases...


That was the last regime, Chuck made those decisions. TDA was probably the best option for a RD at the time. Lemieux was UFA throw in. They weren’t specifically trading for him. In order for the deal to work they had to take him back
2 juin 2023 à 23 h 34
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Going to have to give up a 1st for Hayes


Lol nobody is going to give up a 1st for Hayes.
 
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