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Dubas needs to call the rebuild and tank for Celebrini

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Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023
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26 mai 2023 à 11 h 37
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honestly.... im all for the rebuild
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26 mai 2023 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: genothegoat
honestly.... im all for the rebuild


Ive seen it happen too many times. Imagine if vancouver traded Miller at that deadline and called a rebuild. This way you keep the 14th pick, pickering and any future picks and you move Guentzel instead of signing him to a deal where he will be 32, have an NMC and you started a rebuild. You save 2 years of rebuilding on top of starting a rebuild 2 years earlier than expected. So u save 4 years
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26 mai 2023 à 11 h 39
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For real. Celebrini is a beast! I think there is SO MUCH talent being overshadowed by Bedard right now, that it even extends into next years draft.
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26 mai 2023 à 11 h 40
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For real. Celebrini is a beast! I think there is SO MUCH talent being overshadowed by Bedard right now, that it even extends into next years draft.


Eiserman, Celebrini, Demidov, Mews, Jiricek, Kiviharju, Catton etc. So many good picks next year.

Demidov looks like a beast too
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26 mai 2023 à 11 h 40
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One thing though. Did I miss something? Is Dubas going to PIT? I thought he was taking a break...
26 mai 2023 à 11 h 41
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Flames can't afford Guentzel. Also not really interested in moving Zary for a rental
26 mai 2023 à 11 h 46
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Eiserman, Celebrini, Demidov, Mews, Jiricek, Kiviharju, Catton etc. So many good picks next year


For sure. As well as 2025 and 2026. Misa, Hagens, Gavin, Spence, Scantlebury, etc. We're also going to probably be seeing a lot of big careers ending, new teams in smaller markets entering the ring as true contenders, and the new era truly taking hold. It's an exciting time for the NHL!
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26 mai 2023 à 12 h 8
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Um...... no

Crosby says no anyways
26 mai 2023 à 12 h 15
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Quoting: Garak
One thing though. Did I miss something? Is Dubas going to PIT? I thought he was taking a break...


Sounds like FSG wants him, let's just hope he doesn't do any of that garbage up there, lol.
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26 mai 2023 à 12 h 25
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yeah not happening!!! pit should and will go all in.
26 mai 2023 à 12 h 27
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I don't think it's necessarily his call. FSG has been pretty clear that they think the Pens can still compete and they intend to still compete. So the rebuild will have to wait.

Regardless, Moving Crosby is unthinkable and no one will ever do it. That happens and Dubas would wish the Pens fans treat him as well as we treat Hextall.
And we can most likely get a higher return for Jake. Vladar is genuinely worse than DeSmith, so his value is pretty low.
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 21
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yeah not happening!!! pit should and will go all in.


'Should' ? Absolutely not
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 22
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Will Pittsburgh accept a rebuild? I’d say yes they will

Will they accept trading Crosby? Trust me, the whole city would be burned down if they did that
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26 mai 2023 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Will Pittsburgh accept a rebuild? I’d say yes they will

Will they accept trading Crosby? Trust me, the whole city would be burned down if they did that


chicago couldve called a hard rebuild before trading for Jones
Vancouver couldve called a soft rebuild and not re-signed Miller

Both wouldve been better off.
Pens should learn the lesson here
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 24
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Quoting: genothegoat
honestly.... im all for the rebuild


Quoting: csick
Ive seen it happen too many times. Imagine if vancouver traded Miller at that deadline and called a rebuild. This way you keep the 14th pick, pickering and any future picks and you move Guentzel instead of signing him to a deal where he will be 32, have an NMC and you started a rebuild. You save 2 years of rebuilding on top of starting a rebuild 2 years earlier than expected. So u save 4 years


Quoting: JSEB93
Um...... no

Crosby says no anyways


Quoting: HulkVader
Sounds like FSG wants him, let's just hope he doesn't do any of that garbage up there, lol.


Quoting: fil97
yeah not happening!!! pit should and will go all in.


Quoting: Haymaker26
I don't think it's necessarily his call. FSG has been pretty clear that they think the Pens can still compete and they intend to still compete. So the rebuild will have to wait.

Regardless, Moving Crosby is unthinkable and no one will ever do it. That happens and Dubas would wish the Pens fans treat him as well as we treat Hextall.
And we can most likely get a higher return for Jake. Vladar is genuinely worse than DeSmith, so his value is pretty low.


I stopped reading when I saw the Crosby trade lol
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27 mai 2023 à 8 h 37
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'Should' ? Absolutely not


yeah should. we are right there. couple good moves and we are real contender. we have been good DESPITE management, with new management we will try and get one and having two of the best players to ever play the game, yes a bit old now, but we have a decent chance.
 
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