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Flipping Montour for Long Term Success

Créé par: Joxu
Équipe: 2023-24 Panthers de la Floride
Date de création initiale: 25 mai 2023
Publié: 25 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Why trade Montour?

If Florida was to keep him they'd either have to let him go next season for nothing (which might be worth it if it leads to a cup) or give him a new contract starting at the age of 30. I can not see Montour being able to replicate his production for any more than 3 years if he can even keep it up. Trading Montour this season could get them a very good return which they could flip to fill the teams gaps and make them more competitive for longer.

I know they are trading for a 30-year-old defenseman here which can look weird but Murphy is a great defensive defenseman on a good contract that won't become an anchor. Adding a young winger on a good contract would make the top 9 more connected and could solidify the lines.

The only worry I have is the offense failing if Ekblad has another down season since they wouldn't have their second offensive defenseman. Maybe they could look into getting a more two-way defenseman instead of signing Graves but the price and contract would have to be right. Orlov could be a good fit but the contract would have to relatively short because he is getting pretty old. Giving Lucas Carlsson the chance to prove himself wouldn't be a horrible idea either.

Do Oilers and Blackhawks accept the trades? Tweaking is always possible but I think the fit is there.
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25 mai 2023 à 12 h 57
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edm doesnt have the cap space for montour
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25 mai 2023 à 13 h 0
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More crazy talk basing a trade on an extension. Oilers may not even cap for Montour now......and of course why would they want extend him for that term.........the same reason you donn't
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25 mai 2023 à 13 h 0
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edm doesnt have the cap space for montour


dump ceci
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 2
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dump ceci


We have to re-sign bouchard
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25 mai 2023 à 13 h 3
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Quoting: Yasher97
edm doesnt have the cap space for montour


It'll only be 3,5 million for the 2023-24 season and after that the cap is said to be rising most likely to around 86-88 million so I don't think it's and impossible task. If they cant fit him next season Oilers could trade someone like Ceci who's on a similar cap hit. As for the Bouchard problem is a bridge deal not an option? They could use the Dobson deal as a good start for a negotiation.
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 3
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I would simply keep him and give him the Graves and Murphy money and find a cheaper graves
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: Oiler_fan88
We have to re-sign bouchard


bridge deal most likely they have to get rid of kulak or foegele anyways lol
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 5
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I would simply keep him and give him the Graves and Murphy money and find a cheaper graves


I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 6
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I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.


Yeah, and then find a 1.5-2 million lhd instead of paying graves. You are paying Murphy and graves 8.8 million a year to be average
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: Sicksi
bridge deal most likely they have to get rid of kulak or foegele anyways lol


hollands basically come out and said that the only 2 guys we'd trade for cap dumps are yamo and ceci
foegle probably leaves at the tdl if he doesnt preform
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 9
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hollands basically come out and said that the only 2 guys we'd trade for cap dumps are yamo and ceci
foegle probably leaves at the tdl if he doesnt preform


ken holland would totally trade a player outperforming his contract im not shocked at that
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 13
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Yeah, and then find a 1.5-2 million lhd instead of paying graves. You are paying Murphy and graves 8.8 million a year to be average


Florida should definitely not go another season with the "Marc Staal in the second pair" idea. It has fortunately worked these playoffs but not having a player like Murphy or Graves in their top 4 has been hurting them occasionally.
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 17
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Florida should definitely not go another season with the "Marc Staal in the second pair" idea. It has fortunately worked these playoffs but not having a player like Murphy or Graves in their top 4 has been hurting them occasionally.


They are in the finals!
25 mai 2023 à 13 h 21
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I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.

Montour isn't a 70-point defenseman to the Oilers though. He scored nearly half his points on the PP, and isn't going to get PP time in Edmonton. So they aren't paying top dollar for a rental they'll only get partial use out of.
25 mai 2023 à 14 h 32
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Replace Denisenko w/ the '25 2nd and the Hawks probably consider this
 
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