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Créé par: newballcoach

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2023

Publié: 23 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

This lineup is not perfect (debate trade value all you want) but at least it gives them some depth in scoring (that second line is DANGEROUS) and some more puck moving in the defence core. It's a potential way I could see them going if they choose to keep the core intact.

2C candidates I think the Leafs will look at:

Schieffle or Dubois from Winnipeg
Johannsen from Nashville
Hertl from SJ
Schenn from STL
Schmaltz from AZ
Lindholm from Cal
Henrique (if they want a discount option) from ANA

All of those teams are either looking for a retool as well or are moving into rebuilding. I believe most of those guys (teams value players differently) are affordable without moving a core piece.

I like the odds of them being able to help, likely not solve, their RHD in the UFA market and if they can't find a palpatable move for Matt Murray, buying him out is not obscene.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Abruzzese, Nick	1	850 000 $
Král, Filip	1	850 000 $
Hollowell, Mac	1	850 000 $
Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon	1	850 000 $
Samsonov, Ilya	2	3 500 000 $
Holmberg, Pontus	1	850 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Källgren, Erik	1	950 000 $
Dumba, Matt	1	3 000 000 $
Haula, Erik	1	2 500 000 $
Acciari, Noel	1	1 000 000 $
Schenn, Luke	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (VGK)

ARI

Muzzin, Jake

Détails additionnels:

Muzzin is due $2million in real salary after his bonus is paid. That's useful for Arizona to add to their Island of Fake salary cap misfit toys, hence why they are giving up one of their TWELVE picks in the upcoming draft.

TOR

Scheifele, Mark

WPG

Hirvonen, Roni
Voit, Ty
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

I know everyone will say "Winnipeg says no and blows up their telephones in anger" but obviously trade value in the league is fluid. This is just for conversations sake, but it's unlikely Scheifele is resigning.

Rachats de contrats

Matt Murray: 687 500 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	83 468 950 $	0 $	0 $	31 050 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2
Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Haula, Erik 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Acciari, Noel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Holmberg, Pontus 850 000 $850 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Lafferty, Sam 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ AD, C, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Schenn, Luke 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Samsonov, Ilya 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Dumba, Matt 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph 766 667 $766 667 $ G RFA - 2
McCabe, Jake 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
McMann, Bobby 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 1

23 mai 2023 à 21 h 17

palhal

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Leafs have been the very unsuccessful trading for upcoming UFAs who actually help them get to the next level. Rather they sign ROR rather them continuous saga of trading futures.

23 mai 2023 à 21 h 20

palhal

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If Muzzin remains on LTIR, there probably isn't a money issue as likely insurance pays for his salary. Makes no difference to the Leafs.

23 mai 2023 à 21 h 25

Josh4

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Like the samsonov signing, I think it's fair for both sides off one good season. Could see Haula getting closer to 3.5m in FA. Dumba 100% gets more money in a weak defence FA. Both will likley get mutli year deals. Could give Haula 3.5x 2-3 and not sign Dumba, just have Timmins in the top 6 until trade deadline and upgrade then. Roster looks good overall.

24 mai 2023 à 7 h 58

newballcoach

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Quoting: palhal

If Muzzin remains on LTIR, there probably isn't a money issue as likely insurance pays for his salary. Makes no difference to the Leafs.

Allows them to operate outside of LTIR meaning additions are easier at the trade deadline and they can accrue cap space. They'd much rather be outside of LTIR then inside if they can avoid it. They may not be able to, but they should at least try.

24 mai 2023 à 8 h 44

newballcoach

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Quoting: palhal

Leafs have been the very unsuccessful trading for upcoming UFAs who actually help them get to the next level. Rather they sign ROR rather them continuous saga of trading futures.

I am just concerned about ROR's fit, cap hit and length of deal. If they can get below 5 aav for 3 or less years I'd be a fan.

I like some of the trade options I listed above better than ROR, but you're right they cost assets which could hurt the team longterm. A new GM may not be as palpatable to doing that as Dubas might have been. Schmaltz is the acquisition cost is right seems like a slam dunk option, but I'm worried a line of Tavares-Schmaltz-Nylander is going to give back a lot on D.

24 mai 2023 à 8 h 55

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Rumor is Leafs are on Scheifele's no trade list.

24 mai 2023 à 9 h 3

newballcoach

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Quoting: Boojets

Rumor is Leafs are on Scheifele's no trade list.

Which he could waive of course, but that's interesting to me considering he's from Southern Ontario. I would have not assumed that.

24 mai 2023 à 9 h 5

Boojets

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Quoting: newballcoach

Which he could waive of course, but that's interesting to me considering he's from Southern Ontario. I would have not assumed that.

He was a wings fan growing up. Doesn't like the leafs.

24 mai 2023 à 9 h 6

newballcoach

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Quoting: Boojets

He was a wings fan growing up. Doesn't like the leafs.

Everyone is allowed to be wrong

24 mai 2023 à 11 h 7

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palhal

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Quoting: newballcoach

If I had my way, I wouldn't resign ROR. The guys they have had on their team and the guys they brought in (besides Schenn) didn't contribute THAT much considering the cost to acquire them.
I'd even go as far as saying I wouldn't mind Matthews or Nylander traded before the season starts, so the Leafs clear the air on their status over if they would resign in 24/25. It's my opinion that Matthews doesn't want to resign with the Leafs.....Eight years or nine years is enough.
Maybe best long term solution is for the Leafs is to go into 24/25 with lots of cap....some young assets or picks from the Matthews/Nylander trades and have a capable GM who knows appreciates the cap and how it works.

15 juin 2023 à 9 h 47

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klaw2

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Wouldn't mind him as the 2C, if this above is the cost.

16 juin 2023 à 9 h 14

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Quoting: palhal

We definitely disagree on the best long term solution. I'd much rather have Matthews, Nylander and Marner signed for long-term deals and then continue to build around them. They're all excellent players. It's going to be extremely difficult for the Leafs to add more gamebreaking offensive players since they generally have to be drafted high, and the Leafs won't draft there again anytime soon. I'd hate to lose any.

Totally fine to disagree. I can definitely see the opposite side it's just not what I would want to do. If you asked the Capitals after 8-9 years of Ovi, Kuznetsov etc. if they wanted to bail they might have said yes, but it's worked out for them.

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