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Breadman In Montreal

Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2023
Publié: 20 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 250 000 $
32 000 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Panarin, Artemi
Détails additionnels:
The assumption on this deal is that the NYR want to move on from Panarin's contract so they can let the kids play and they want the cap relief
NYR
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
The Rangers get 6.1M in cap relief and they get a player who plays a different style of game in the playoffs
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $72 756 190 $1 170 000 $4 195 000 $10 743 810 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 4
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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UFA - 3

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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 22
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Done deal 👌😌 I mean he is not waving his NMC. And NYR are stuck with him, but IF this was possible I go for this in a heartbeat.
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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 26
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Quoting: AG_sweden
Done deal 👌😌 I mean he is not waving his NMC. And NYR are stuck with him, but IF this was possible I go for this in a heartbeat.


It's a good deal for both sides. Habs could use a player to setup Suzuki & Caufield
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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 32
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It's a good deal for both sides. Habs could use a player to setup Suzuki & Caufield


I agree buy it all deeps on Panarin, unfortunately. But I dig the idea. Both teams move a player they would like to move. We could use Anderson as top 9 FW.
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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 34
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I agree buy it all deeps on Panarin, unfortunately. But I dig the idea. Both teams move a player they would like to move. We could use Anderson as top 9 FW.


Maybe Gorton can convince him...
20 mai 2023 à 8 h 45
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Quoting: AG_sweden
I agree buy it all deeps on Panarin, unfortunately. But I dig the idea. Both teams move a player they would like to move. We could use Anderson as top 9 FW.


Quoting: jonh514
Maybe Gorton can convince him...


Not sure what the taxes are in Canada vs New York...but I don't see Panarin waiving unless there is a $ advantage for him AND he's going to a contender. Only a few teams check both boxes- none are anywhere near Canada.
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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 50
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Not sure what the taxes are in Canada vs New York...but I don't see Panarin waiving unless there is a $ advantage for him AND he's going to a contender. Only a few teams check both boxes- none are anywhere near Canada.


Taxes are one thing, cost of living is another. Each dollar earned is worth 30% more, plus cost of buying a place is 1/4th the cost of NYC...
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20 mai 2023 à 8 h 52
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If Montreal were looking to seriously compete next year this would be good.

I would be concerned that this trade makes Montreal better and costs them some positions in next year’s draft rankings when they are still in rebuild mode. I could endure another year of sucking if it gets Montreal a chance at good draft pick next year in order to maintain the steady build towards being a contender
20 mai 2023 à 8 h 53
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Taxes are one thing, cost of living is another. Each dollar earned is worth 30% more, plus cost of buying a place is 1/4th the cost of NYC...


Think the taxes are comparable anyways. I think the biggest issue here for Panarin could be the city, maybe he can call up Kovalev and get his take.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 5
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Think the taxes are comparable anyways. I think the biggest issue here for Panarin could be the city, maybe he can call up Kovalev and get his take.


Montreal is an awesome city
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 7
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Montreal is an awesome city


Message Panarin on social media and tell him that.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 17
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It's a good deal for both sides. Habs could use a player to setup Suzuki & Caufield


I like it for both sides. MTL has good rep with Russians too so I could see it.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 18
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I like it for both sides. MTL has good rep with Russians too so I could see it.


Only problem is they stink
20 mai 2023 à 9 h 26
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Only problem is they stink


Adding one of the best wingers in the league is a massive add and they have so much youth still developing. CC was injured for 50% of last season. They are sneaky better than they finished this past season. CC was on pace for 50 goals. Playing with bread and Suzuki will only add to that. He could get 60 with both and 82 games.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 27
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Hi from a Columbus fan.

Panarin's only goal in free agency was to go to a huge city, and he wanted to be in NYC. Maybe his motivations have changed in 4 years, but I doubt he waives his NMC to go anywhere else.

Aside from that, he's legitimately one of the best wingers in the game, who will continue to be one of the best wingers in the game for the duration of that deal. He had one bad playoff series, but to move him for a player with perpetual health issues on a longer (and arguably worse) contract and a 2nd round pick is asinine.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 28
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Adding one of the best wingers in the league is a massive add and they have so much youth still developing. CC was injured for 50% of last season. They are sneaky better than they finished this past season. CC was on pace for 50 goals. Playing with bread and Suzuki will only add to that. He could get 60 with both and 82 games.


Caufield is a mini Laine.

They stink and won't be good for a while
20 mai 2023 à 9 h 29
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Quoting: jonh514
Taxes are one thing, cost of living is another. Each dollar earned is worth 30% more, plus cost of buying a place is 1/4th the cost of NYC...


Quoting: GMBL
Think the taxes are comparable anyways. I think the biggest issue here for Panarin could be the city, maybe he can call up Kovalev and get his take.


Good info...maybe then waiving for a Canadian team isn't so much of a reach. For sure his take on the city would be a factor- it was when he came to NY. If the $ thing isn't much of an issue then I guess one more consideration would be the role he'd be expected to play. I don't see him having a strong desire to live in EDM...but maybe if he saw an opportunity to play with McD and Drais that would move the needle. As far as MTL- good point about contacting a Russian comrade to see what the city offers from a Russian perspective. And not to throw water on the idea- I just don't see him warm to going to a rebuild situation...but hey- you never know.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 34
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Good info...maybe then waiving for a Canadian team isn't so much of a reach. For sure his take on the city would be a factor- it was when he came to NY. If the $ thing isn't much of an issue then I guess one more consideration would be the role he'd be expected to play. I don't see him having a strong desire to live in EDM...but maybe if he saw an opportunity to play with McD and Drais that would move the needle. As far as MTL- good point about contacting a Russian comrade to see what the city offers from a Russian perspective. And not to throw water on the idea- I just don't see him warm to going to a rebuild situation...but hey- you never know.


Not that many teams can take on an 11.6M player. If Drury wants him gone, or if he wants out... He's gonna have to be flexible.
20 mai 2023 à 9 h 47
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If Montreal were looking to seriously compete next year this would be good.

I would be concerned that this trade makes Montreal better and costs them some positions in next year’s draft rankings when they are still in rebuild mode. I could endure another year of sucking if it gets Montreal a chance at good draft pick next year in order to maintain the steady build towards being a contender


You could, I get that. How do you think Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Matheson, Savard feel, cause I think they all believe they can make the playoffs?
20 mai 2023 à 9 h 52
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Not that many teams can take on an 11.6M player. If Drury wants him gone, or if he wants out... He's gonna have to be flexible.


That's the thing...Panarin doesn't seem to want out. That can begin to change, though with the new head coach.
And yeah- because of that contract and NMC, NYR have little leverage. If another destination could be worked out Drury most likely would need to take back considerable salary and/or retain.
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20 mai 2023 à 9 h 58
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That's the thing...Panarin doesn't seem to want out. That can begin to change, though with the new head coach.
And yeah- because of that contract and NMC, NYR have little leverage. If another destination could be worked out Drury most likely would need to take back considerable salary and/or retain.


It's a weird offseason because when there are not a.lot of good UFAs, there are a lot of RFAs susceptible to offer sheets and a few teams with big money UFAs they want to move.

New York, Toronto, Edmonton all have major question marks.
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20 mai 2023 à 10 h 11
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You could, I get that. How do you think Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Matheson, Savard feel, cause I think they all believe they can make the playoffs?


Yeah, those guys would be excited to see the team improve for sure. Cannot blame them, but I think the young 3 may have more patience for the rebuild process, especially if it ultimately gets them closer to the Cup
20 mai 2023 à 10 h 53
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Yeah, those guys would be excited to see the team improve for sure. Cannot blame them, but I think the young 3 may have more patience for the rebuild process, especially if it ultimately gets them closer to the Cup


Who are we going to draft say 10th OA next season who will make a serious impact in the next 3-4 years?
 
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