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Créé par: Howie
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2023
Publié: 19 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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WPG
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  2. Östlund, Noah
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Jets get pick 13 in this years draft
Upl is 24 year old goalie who could use a change and maybe fines a way to be a 1a/1b goalie
Ostlund gives the jets a prospect overseas to build the team with
BUF
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
  2. Stanley, Logan [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Buffalo gets Hellebuyck who is a venza winner, 3 times nominated in 6 years and would give Buffalo the best shot at ending the drought they have as throwing Levi to be a 1a with thr experience he has and hope to make playoffs is optimistic. Get stanley for bottom pair lhd and with his age and size could be a nice addition
2.
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Jets get Calgary's 2025 first (can choose 2024 first if in 20-32 range). Colorado's 2024 second, Kidney who has great offensive numbers in the q with b2b 100 point seasons and a cap player coming back in Dvorak or hoffman
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Mtl gets their guy and keeps the 2023 picks and their own future 1sts in the process. Sign him to the 7 year 8m deal and start to turn the corner on being a competitive team. Jets also throw in vesalainen as a flyer type pick up where in 3 years if he's wanting to return to NA then they can sign him as a depth piece after some strong seasons over seas. If not it doesn't take up a roster spot until he's signed and has no risk besides if he stays over seas.
3.
WPG
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Jets get a 2024 first go help get more young assets on the team. Lapierre is a good prospect where he is good at a lot of things but master of none.
WSH
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. Scheifele, Mark (3 062 500 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Caps get scheifele 50% retained around the deadline where he can be a good top 6 piece to compete again next year. Harkins provides young bottom 6/depth support for the team.
4.
WPG
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Jets get a 2023 2nd to bring in a rhd prospect and zadina who could use a change of scenery.
DET
  1. Johannesson, Anton [Liste de réserve]
  2. Pionk, Neal
Détails additionnels:
Detroit gets a perfect 2nd pair rhd that can do it all (pp, pk, hit, block, provide offense support. Get johannesson as a toss in prospect that's currently in the 3rd tier Swedish league but could be in a different higher league next year. Had injury issues and might be able to sign him to play in ahl at some point.
5.
WPG
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Definitely the most questionable deal so I'll accept the push back on the deal.

Jets get Garland who is a solid middle six player just isn't worth almost 5m. Could be a nice addition to have a player give it all season. Myers replaces demelo on the right side and basically plays the same role that demelo does. Get a top 10 protected 1st in 2024. This could also be a lower pick with a b prospect.
VAN
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
  2. Heinola, Ville
Détails additionnels:
Vancouver gets the exactly the player they need in demelo who is a solid defensive dman that is rhd and a lower cap hit. Can be a great pair with hughes and how Morrissey was able to boom with the solid partner demelo is maybe hughes takes another step and becomes a norris finalist. Heinola is here as Vancouver seems to want to bring in younger nhl ready or on the crusp to help build a core. He has been shut out of the jets lineup and really could use a change where a team values what he can bring.
6.
WPG
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Jets sign Blackwood he probably doesn't get qualified but since his qo is so high nj can't expect anything for a return as he ain't worth 3.3m and not a lot of teams would be paying late picks for a injury prone goalie like him
NJD
  1. Blaisdell, Harrison [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Nj can take Blaisdell and hope he turns into something but honestly just gives them something for him even if it will likely never have an impact on the franchise
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19 mai 2023 à 21 h 58
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You could probably keep Johannesson. The value is fine without him for us.
19 mai 2023 à 21 h 59
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I'd do it without stanley. Dont want any chance that coaching may play him.
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 1
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Quoting: Lancebmx
You could probably keep Johannesson. The value is fine without him for us.


Have seen some Detroit fans say it's a bit too much so I added him just to sweeten it slightly
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 2
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Quoting: Stadel
I'd do it without stanley. Dont want any chance that coaching may play him.


He could be a good 7th dman still but fair he can take some damn dumb penalties
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 3
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Sabres accept
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19 mai 2023 à 22 h 5
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He could be a good 7th dman still but fair he can take some damn dumb penalties


got like 3 7th d-men masquerading as 3rd pair players so we're pretty much capped out there
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 9
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Quoting: Howie
He could be a good 7th dman still but fair he can take some damn dumb penalties


Honestly if I had my choice I would just say an equivalent value draft pick. That would likely be better for us since we can use it down the line for something. Honestly I would do this trade as is without him though.
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 13
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I still have a problem with including both the 23 first and one of the firsts from last draft. In less there's a reasonable extension in place, there needs to be either a fetch to next year's first or a lesser prospect.
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19 mai 2023 à 22 h 17
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Honestly if I had my choice I would just say an equivalent value draft pick. That would likely be better for us since we can use it down the line for something. Honestly I would do this trade as is without him though.


Yeah could just include a 4th and trade stanley elsewhere for a similar return to what we include
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 19
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Honestly this is really good. Good detail in the trades, reasoning is sound. I think there will be some push back from Vancouver but that trade would help them try and turn it around. Demelo is really underrated. Not going to move Nino or try and find a home for Wheeler?
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19 mai 2023 à 22 h 22
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Honestly this is really good. Good detail in the trades, reasoning is sound. I think there will be some push back from Vancouver but that trade would help them try and turn it around. Demelo is really underrated. Not going to move Nino or try and find a home for Wheeler?


Just felt like I had the trades that I wanted and was struggling on those Destinations and returns
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 23
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Quoting: Lancebmx
You could probably keep Johannesson. The value is fine without him for us.


Ah, come on. It’s worth keeping him in there just to confuse everyone with all the variations of A. Johannsen’s we’ll have in the system.
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19 mai 2023 à 22 h 24
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Canucks are not trading a good middle 6 forward and a first round pick for a 30 year old bottom 4 defenseman....
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Ah, come on. It’s worth keeping him in there just to confuse everyone with all the variations of A. Johannsen’s we’ll have in the system.


Lol I did think about that honestly. Would be hilarious. I'm hoping we get Willander.
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 26
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Quoting: Juiceman
Canucks are not trading a good middle 6 forward and a first round pick for a 30 year old bottom 4 defenseman....


Fair enough just need a rhd like him and clear cap in the same move seems like something positive but like I said in the trade it probably isn't for everyone
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 26
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Lol I did think about that honestly. Would be hilarious. I'm hoping we get Willander.

I do like him too, haha. Wallinder/Willander pairing would actually be vunderful.
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19 mai 2023 à 22 h 43
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I would probably attempt to get the value out of Connor/Dillon and niedereiter also, everybody else probably needs to get shined up a bit to move. Possibly ehlers also. I would be more choked if the jets go on a mediocre run than a bottom out, still believe they need to tear it right down and build back stronger than attempt a retool on the fly. But feel free to call i told you so if they manage to pull it off.
19 mai 2023 à 22 h 48
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If Kuznetsov isn’t worth a first, Scheifele isn’t either
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 12
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Capitals say **** no and then puke on the phone. That 1st alone is worth more than Scheifele.
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 20
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Quoting: brady_t12
If Kuznetsov isn’t worth a first, Scheifele isn’t either


How many points did Kuznetsov have this year? 55? Also has a 15 no trade list which is half the league and with how cap strapped the majority of the league he isn't worth more. Scheifele on the other hand had 42 goals this year (Kuznetsov career high is 27) and only has 10 teams he can't be traded to with a cap hit 1.6m cheaper. The fact is Kuznetsov had a down year and simply wouldn't get value based on him being able to eliminate teams that would want him and the rest wouldn't trade for him. Scheifele on the other hand can be retained at 3m and how many guys can be acquired that scored 40 goals and has 3m cap hit that a team would actually move. So no Scheifele > Kuznetsov and it makes sense why.
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 21
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Quoting: Kuzbackov
Capitals say **** no and then puke on the phone. That 1st alone is worth more than Scheifele.


A 20th something first that's probably protected and is no guarantee to become scheifele for a guy that scored 40 goals and can be had at a 3m cap hit. It's a fair deal and others agree
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 39
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I just can't imagine Vancouver is interested in that. They'd definitely rather just get Garland out on his own and wait out Myers contract than do a 1st.
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: Howie
A 20th something first that's probably protected and is no guarantee to become scheifele for a guy that scored 40 goals and can be had at a 3m cap hit. It's a fair deal and others agree

Others are idiots. The Capitals are picking 8th Overall THIS year. They’re absolutely not trading any first in the foreseeable future for a guy in his 30s who is declining, no matter how much you retain, that’s stupid no matter what “others” say.
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 47
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Others are idiots. The Capitals are picking 8th Overall THIS year. They’re absolutely not trading any first in the foreseeable future for a guy in his 30s who is declining, no matter how much you retain, that’s stupid no matter what “others” say.


It's fair value wise maybe not the right team but if scheifele was to be traded this type of return on another team would be the base. Don't get butt hurt I picked the wrong team sorry I couldn't be perfect for you
19 mai 2023 à 23 h 49
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It's fair value wise maybe not the right team but if scheifele was to be traded this type of return on another team would be the base. Don't get butt hurt I picked the wrong team sorry I couldn't be perfect for you

Scheifele will not return any Top 10 Pick from any team.
 
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