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An objectively fair deal

Créé par: DumplingAndChase
Publié: 13 mai 2023 à 1 h 26
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/185 (23%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Canadiens de MontréalCanadiens de Montréal

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dvorak, ChristianCanadiens de MontréalLNH-4 450 000 $011---64101828--
Barron, JustinExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalLNH-925 000 $011---3941115--
Kidney, RileyExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $001---0000--
Beck, OwenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $001---1000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Panthers de la FlorideFLA)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dubois, Pierre-LucJets de WinnipegLNH-6 000 000 $011---73273663--
Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Jets de WinnipegWPG)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 869 167 $2548695617
Variation-625 000 $-1-1-3-2-11
Final1 244 167 $ (↓)24 (↓)47 (↓)66 (↓)3 (↓)5 (↓)18 (↑)13720

Logo de Jets de WinnipegJets de Winnipeg

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dubois, Pierre-LucJets de WinnipegLNH-1 362 162 $011---73273663--
Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Jets de WinnipegWPG)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dvorak, ChristianCanadiens de MontréalLNH-1 010 270 $011---64101828--
Barron, JustinExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalLNH-210 000 $011---3941115--
Kidney, RileyExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $001---0000--
Beck, OwenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $001---1000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Panthers de la FlorideFLA)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial764 292 $2645593410
Variation141 892 $11321-1
Final906 184 $ (↑)27 (↑)46 (↑)62 (↑)5 (↑)5 (↑)9 (↓)-13-7-20
13 mai 2023 à 4 h 24
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In what u inverse is this objectively fair? Habs ain’t moving Barron or the 24 first. They might say yes to kidney beck FL first and dvo but even then They would likely just wait until UFA
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13 mai 2023 à 9 h 9
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Quoting: Savage27
In what u inverse is this objectively fair? Habs ain’t moving Barron or the 24 first. They might say yes to kidney beck FL first and dvo but even then They would likely just wait until UFA


Take out Beck from your suggestion (leaving Dvorak, Florida first and Kidney) and Montreal MAY do that….or just wait until free agency
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13 mai 2023 à 10 h 22
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Take out Beck from your suggestion (leaving Dvorak, Florida first and Kidney) and Montreal MAY do that….or just wait until free agency


Take Dvorak out too and Winnipeg might accept.
13 mai 2023 à 16 h 28
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Remove Beck, Barron, the 1st in 2024 and the 2nd in 2023 and maybe Montreal do that.
14 mai 2023 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: Caufeel
Remove Beck, Barron, the 1st in 2024 and the 2nd in 2023 and maybe Montreal do that.


Spoken like a true Montreal supporter... This why this storied franchise currently is sitting in the position that they are in. Honestly, you should start seeing the value that other teams have and value your prospects, players accordingly.. You guys are so of base that it isn't worth reading.
14 mai 2023 à 11 h 53
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Spoken like a true Montreal supporter... This why this storied franchise currently is sitting in the position that they are in. Honestly, you should start seeing the value that other teams have and value your prospects, players accordingly.. You guys are so of base that it isn't worth reading.


Hmm my opinion has literally zero impact on the organization or the position they are sitting in.

But nobody is giving that much value for PLD, even if he was signed for 8 years at a decent price. At the moment is a RFA one year away from being a UFA, he seems to want to come play for Mtl (or at least get out of Winnipeg), and he'll be looking to get probably around 9M$.

He's absolutely not worth 2 1st round pick (especially with the 2024 probably being a top10 again) + the 37th pick this year, plus a young promising D, and a good prospect like Beck.

There's literally 0 chance that Montreal give that much for a player like PLD lol. He's very good, but he has massive flaws in his game.
14 mai 2023 à 13 h 1
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Quoting: Caufeel
Hmm my opinion has literally zero impact on the organization or the position they are sitting in.

But nobody is giving that much value for PLD, even if he was signed for 8 years at a decent price. At the moment is a RFA one year away from being a UFA, he seems to want to come play for Mtl (or at least get out of Winnipeg), and he'll be looking to get probably around 9M$.

He's absolutely not worth 2 1st round pick (especially with the 2024 probably being a top10 again) + the 37th pick this year, plus a young promising D, and a good prospect like Beck.

There's literally 0 chance that Montreal give that much for a player like PLD lol. He's very good, but he has massive flaws in his game.


Fair enough, but being a voice/sounding board of the Montreal fan base and there are enough of you that provide that message (chat lines such as here and direct messaging to the Habs), what is a fair offer/value or return to Wpg at the trade deadline? Now be fair!!!
14 mai 2023 à 17 h 39
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Fair enough, but being a voice/sounding board of the Montreal fan base and there are enough of you that provide that message (chat lines such as here and direct messaging to the Habs), what is a fair offer/value or return to Wpg at the trade deadline? Now be fair!!!


Well, realistically Montreal probably won't competitive next year so the idea of trading valuable assets (like 1st rnd picks / high prospects) at the deadline makes no sense for them. There's probably a team out there who would offer much more to get him as a rental for a playoffs plush.

For me the only way Mtl gets him is when he becomes UFA. That's why I don't see them offering more than a late first (FLA pick) + an okay player like Dvorak and a B prospect like Kidney. Then WPG probably says no and try to get more, but it makes no sense from MTL standpoint to give up more than that.
14 mai 2023 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: Caufeel
Well, realistically Montreal probably won't competitive next year so the idea of trading valuable assets (like 1st rnd picks / high prospects) at the deadline makes no sense for them. There's probably a team out there who would offer much more to get him as a rental for a playoffs plush.

For me the only way Mtl gets him is when he becomes UFA. That's why I don't see them offering more than a late first (FLA pick) + an okay player like Dvorak and a B prospect like Kidney. Then WPG probably says no and try to get more, but it makes no sense from MTL standpoint to give up more than that.


Thanks for clearing that up for me... I appreciate your response and explanation... Enjoy and good luck to the Canadiens!!!
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