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Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Now What?

6 juin 2023 à 21 h 6
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When Brodie's contract is up, this man will be a regular


If hes not packaged away for a scoring winger yea. As who knows whats gonna happen this summer.
6 juin 2023 à 21 h 17
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If hes not packaged away for a scoring winger yea. As who knows whats gonna happen this summer.


I highly doubt Niemela gets moved, he is easily our best prospect now that Knies has graduated. I'd expect Hirvonen, Robertson, or even Liljegren to be moved before Topi
6 juin 2023 à 23 h 27
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I highly doubt Niemela gets moved, he is easily our best prospect now that Knies has graduated. I'd expect Hirvonen, Robertson, or even Liljegren to be moved before Topi


I’d like to believe that to but if this organization had concerns over Sandin (5’11 182) and his net front defence, stoping the cycle, what are going to think Niemelä (5’11 168) will do. 🤷‍♂️
7 juin 2023 à 0 h 50
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I highly doubt Niemela gets moved, he is easily our best prospect now that Knies has graduated. I'd expect Hirvonen, Robertson, or even Liljegren to be moved before Topi


Idk if Arizona called and said hey I got Keller and I want 1st + 3rd + Niemela + Robertson u gonna say no?

Like to me it really depends on the deal

My one untouchable rn is Knies as man that kid is gonna be something special.
7 juin 2023 à 1 h 28
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Idk if Arizona called and said hey I got Keller and I want 1st + 3rd + Niemela + Robertson u gonna say no?

Like to me it really depends on the deal

My one untouchable rn is Knies as man that kid is gonna be something special.


I know it's easy to trade Niemela over Knies given the fact that Knies has played in the NHL, but I firmly believe that Niemela will be just as (if not more) special than Knies. Niemela is everything the Leafs need on their blueline and more. The kid is one of the most dynamic defensemen I have seen in the Leafs system for a long time. Watching him with the Marlies was such a joy and made me that much more excited. If Arizona asked for Knies in a package to send the Leafs Keller, what would you say? That argument goes both ways.

Niemela is ridiculously good. He will be a top 4 defenseman sooner than later, and a damn good one at that. IMO, Niemela was the single best Dubas draft pick as Leafs GM and could potentially go down as the best draft pick he'll ever make. As much as I hate hyping up prospects, Topi is something special. He is a game changer.
7 juin 2023 à 1 h 29
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I’d like to believe that to but if this organization had concerns over Sandin (5’11 182) and his net front defence, stoping the cycle, what are going to think Niemelä (5’11 168) will do. 🤷‍♂️


I think the fact that he's an RD gives him the opportunity to burrow a way into the Leafs lineup. Niemela is significantly better defensively than Sandin ever will be, and there is some offensive upside. Really hope no one makes any dumb decisions in regards to Topi, he is exactly what we need
7 juin 2023 à 12 h 45
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I think the fact that he's an RD gives him the opportunity to burrow a way into the Leafs lineup. Niemela is significantly better defensively than Sandin ever will be, and there is some offensive upside. Really hope no one makes any dumb decisions in regards to Topi, he is exactly what we need






“ Now, Niemelä openly admitted after the game how his defensive game and physicality need to improve in the AHL. And he’s right, since there were times when Senators forwards with a few inches and pounds on him muscled past him in the offensive zone. It’s too early to call this a cause for concern, but after adding size became a focus of this season in Finland for him, those efforts will have to continue this summer.”

I’m not sure how we can say he is significantly better. I will say something he has over Sandin is better straight line speed, something Sandin struggled with. I personally don’t see a ton of difference between the two.

I wouldn’t lose sleep over it if they moved him for a young C is all.
7 juin 2023 à 16 h 7
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Apparently Kings might look to move Arthur Kaliyev this summer

Played 2 games vs EDM in playoffs then a HS. LAK has to many guys rn so hes on the 4th line

If the price isnt insane could swing a deal
7 juin 2023 à 18 h 37
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Dubois is one of my least of my least favourite players, and I think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be a Hab, but if he's open to coming to Toronto...

My hatred for him is partly why I want him here so bad. Solves our 2C issue as well. I love Niemela, but if he has to be moved for Dubois, then I'd do it
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7 juin 2023 à 20 h 19
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Not gonna lie when Friedman said this I gained a whole new perspective as hes not wrong

Its just core 4 this and that. There are other good players on this team
7 juin 2023 à 20 h 21
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Modifié 7 juin 2023 à 20 h 38
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Dubois is one of my least of my least favourite players, and I think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be a Hab, but if he's open to coming to Toronto...

My hatred for him is partly why I want him here so bad. Solves our 2C issue as well. I love Niemela, but if he has to be moved for Dubois, then I'd do it


Hes going to MTL. We all know thats where he wants to go

He thought he was being traded last year nope. This draft were probs gonna hear WPG trading him in a sign and trade for Dvorak + Picks /Prospects
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 22
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A full season of Knies 🤤


8 juin 2023 à 13 h 45
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Got a feeling this offseason gonna be full of short expensive deals

As so far its been

5.875 x 2 years Gavrikov
4.25mill x 2 years Athinoseau
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8 juin 2023 à 15 h 42
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Shane Doan in Toronto? Matthews 8 year deal inbound
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8 juin 2023 à 15 h 46
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So we went from Dubas/Pridham to Treliving/Doan

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8 juin 2023 à 15 h 54
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So we went from Dubas/Pridham to Treliving/Doan

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Doan replaces Spezza

Its Treliving/Pridham as if we went by that logic u would be saying Dubas/Spezza
8 juin 2023 à 15 h 58
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Doan replaces Spezza

Its Treliving/Pridham as if we went by that logic u would be saying Dubas/Spezza


I’m waiting to July to see that
8 juin 2023 à 15 h 58
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Shane Doan in Toronto? Matthews 8 year deal inbound


I like the move as he basically replaces Spezza who was a special assistant to the GM (Dubas)

Also makes the Ari boys happy

To bad for his son though....Daddy went to MLSE and never came back lul
8 juin 2023 à 16 h 3
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I’m waiting to July to see that


If Dubas really wanted Pridham he would have been Pitt GM rn. If he really wants to F over the leafs u take him before the draft but we know he aint that petty and neither are the Leafs who are allowing Dubas to sit at Pitts draft table. Like Treeliving and CGY Toronto could have requested he not be there but nope they permitting. Hes probs got someone else in mind as I said before Pridham is Shanny's guy as did Dubas hire Pridham no Shanahan did and from most reports Pridham likes it here and chose to stay

https://twitter.com/LeafsLunch1050/status/1663994933303205888

Got a feeling Dubas gonna hire Tulsky anyways. But if Dubas asked to interview Pridham we would potentially see Shanahan and MLSE create the vice president role and he would be given it lul. Where hes under Shanny but above the GM. Or Shanny would take the Alternate Govoner role and give Pridham president who knows but as of now he is happy here and seems to have little interest in moving
8 juin 2023 à 16 h 30
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I don’t know anything about Doan as an executive, but he was a pretty darn good player and Matthews really likes him so why not? It’ll be unfortunate if Pridham is gone as a result of this though.
8 juin 2023 à 17 h 45
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I don’t know anything about Doan as an executive, but he was a pretty darn good player and Matthews really likes him so why not? It’ll be unfortunate if Pridham is gone as a result of this though.


Doan was hired to replace Spezza from what I have heard. As I believe hes not an assistant GM but an assistant to the GM (Kind of like what Pridham was under Lou/Nonis before Dubas made him Assistant GM)

As assistant to the GM and assistant GM are not the same

Would love for him and Wickenheiser to work together with player development that would be amazing

Also

https://twitter.com/AM34/status/1099810610668158976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1099810610668158976%7Ctwgr%5Ea99cf2b706dc99dd33bc8bf367b85b1cd3a1fc23%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsnet.ca%2Fnhl%2Farticle%2Fmaple-leafs-planning-to-add-coyotes-great-shane-doan-to-front-office%2F

Nice
8 juin 2023 à 20 h 3
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Apparently Kings might look to move Arthur Kaliyev this summer

Played 2 games vs EDM in playoffs then a HS. LAK has to many guys rn so hes on the 4th line

If the price isnt insane could swing a deal


He has a great shot but isn’t a great player. He would do best on a bottom feeder where he can get PP1 time and enough icetime to allow the other aspects of his game to develop. He needs to work on his skating and defensive play.
8 juin 2023 à 20 h 6
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I don’t know anything about Doan as an executive, but he was a pretty darn good player and Matthews really likes him so why not? It’ll be unfortunate if Pridham is gone as a result of this though.


Doan really isn’t a contract guy. Leafs have already lost a few coaches and managers this year. At some point I would say enough is enough.
8 juin 2023 à 22 h 37
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Doan was hired to replace Spezza from what I have heard. As I believe hes not an assistant GM but an assistant to the GM (Kind of like what Pridham was under Lou/Nonis before Dubas made him Assistant GM)

As assistant to the GM and assistant GM are not the same

Would love for him and Wickenheiser to work together with player development that would be amazing

Also

https://twitter.com/AM34/status/1099810610668158976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1099810610668158976%7Ctwgr%5Ea99cf2b706dc99dd33bc8bf367b85b1cd3a1fc23%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsnet.ca%2Fnhl%2Farticle%2Fmaple-leafs-planning-to-add-coyotes-great-shane-doan-to-front-office%2F

Nice


No reports say he’s an assistant GM which would suggest he’s replacing one of the current AGMs. Hopefully not Pridham.
8 juin 2023 à 22 h 38
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Doan really isn’t a contract guy. Leafs have already lost a few coaches and managers this year. At some point I would say enough is enough.


Quoting: Newtown
Doan really isn’t a contract guy. Leafs have already lost a few coaches and managers this year. At some point I would say enough is enough.


He’s an assistant GM, I wouldn’t worry man
 
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