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Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 mai 2023
Publié: 7 mai 2023
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 16
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You would have to provide a reason for Vancouver to do that.
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 17
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two late first round picks dont get petey
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 19
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Yeah no. Don't think anybody on the Canes is enough for Pettersson. Not even Svechnikov or Aho.
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 22
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Yeah no. Don't think anybody on the Canes is enough for Pettersson. Not even Svechnikov or Aho.


What are you smoking mate?
7 mai 2023 à 17 h 27
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What are you smoking mate?


Pettersson is absolutely worth more than Aho or Svechnikov given their positions and contracts
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 27
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lol no
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7 mai 2023 à 17 h 36
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What are you smoking mate?


Pettersson would be the best player on the Canes and it isn't particularly close
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7 mai 2023 à 18 h 7
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Terrible for the Canucks
7 mai 2023 à 19 h 3
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This is awful for Carolina. First of all, EP is not going to have another 100 point season. People love to point at that and say "he's so good". They neglect to mention that his scoring regressed significantly after the Horvat trade. Not to mention he had an unsustainably high shooting percentage that fell off a cliff. He's still not good enough in the dot or defensively for this carolina system anyway. Would not even give up Kotkaniemi for someone that would not succeed here. Bad fit.
7 mai 2023 à 19 h 34
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This is awful for Carolina. First of all, EP is not going to have another 100 point season. People love to point at that and say "he's so good". They neglect to mention that his scoring regressed significantly after the Horvat trade. Not to mention he had an unsustainably high shooting percentage that fell off a cliff. He's still not good enough in the dot or defensively for this carolina system anyway. Would not even give up Kotkaniemi for someone that would not succeed here. Bad fit.


That is a hilarious take. Wouldn't give up Kotkaniemi for a top centre in the league that could play in any system? Also Pettersson is excellent defensively and would be dynamite with Necas or Svech on his wings (he hasn't had an elite winger of their caliber in Vancouver apart from Kuzmenko in VAN). Pettersson's shooting percentage was a career low this season too. To ignorantly point out his face off stats or say he's not good enough defensively when he would be the second best defensive centre in CAR behind Staal just proves how little you know.
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7 mai 2023 à 19 h 36
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Pettersson would be the best player on the Canes and it isn't particularly close


He's having a fluke 100-point season. He's a reliable 2C at best most of the time while being an elite defensive player (So basically KK). Svech, Marty and Aho are much better than he is
7 mai 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Caniac2000
This is awful for Carolina. First of all, EP is not going to have another 100 point season. People love to point at that and say "he's so good". They neglect to mention that his scoring regressed significantly after the Horvat trade. Not to mention he had an unsustainably high shooting percentage that fell off a cliff. He's still not good enough in the dot or defensively for this carolina system anyway. Would not even give up Kotkaniemi for someone that would not succeed here. Bad fit.


What are you talking about lol?

Here’s his splits this year: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/7520/splits/
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7 mai 2023 à 19 h 46
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Quoting: Caniac2000
This is awful for Carolina. First of all, EP is not going to have another 100 point season. People love to point at that and say "he's so good". They neglect to mention that his scoring regressed significantly after the Horvat trade. Not to mention he had an unsustainably high shooting percentage that fell off a cliff. He's still not good enough in the dot or defensively for this carolina system anyway. Would not even give up Kotkaniemi for someone that would not succeed here. Bad fit.


Tell me you don’t watch hockey without telling me you don’t watch hockey. Pettersson is one of the best two way players in the league, and would easily be Carolina’s best player. Also, he had more points after Horvat got traded than Kotkaniemi had all season. He played at a 109 point pace after Horvat was traded

You’re neglecting to mention Kotkaniemi rode an unsustainable hot streak to end the season, he’s more of a 30 point 3C
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7 mai 2023 à 19 h 50
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He's having a fluke 100-point season. He's a reliable 2C at best most of the time while being an elite defensive player (So basically KK). Svech, Marty and Aho are much better than he is


Necas had a fluke 70 point season, he’s more of a good 2nd liner. Svech is a 25 goal scoring winger, those are a dime a dozen around the league. Aho is just like Pettersson if Pettersson was worse at every part of the game. He’s like Walmart Pettersson
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7 mai 2023 à 19 h 53
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It’s clear he doesn’t watch petterson play other Swedish players around the league know how rare a player Pettersson is this was his breakout 100point 1c with selke potential
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 0
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Necas had a fluke 70 point season, he’s more of a good 2nd liner. Svech is a 25 goal scoring winger, those are a dime a dozen around the league. Aho is just like Pettersson if Pettersson was worse at every part of the game. He’s like Walmart Pettersson


Ohh, come on... Aho puts up about 75-80 points a season... Svech brings a lot of physicality and heart to the team while still being able to put pucks in the net... Necas is probably a second-liner tbh and I'd like somebody like Pacioretty to fill that spot
7 mai 2023 à 20 h 4
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Ohh, come on... Aho puts up about 75-80 points a season... Svech brings a lot of physicality and heart to the team while still being able to put pucks in the net... Necas is probably a second-liner tbh and I'd like somebody like Pacioretty to fill that spot


And is Pettersson, a 100 point, elite 1C, not better than a 75-80 point pending UFA, a "glue" guy, and a 2nd liner?
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 8
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Ohh, come on... Aho puts up about 75-80 points a season... Svech brings a lot of physicality and heart to the team while still being able to put pucks in the net... Necas is probably a second-liner tbh and I'd like somebody like Pacioretty to fill that spot


I was more just making outrageous statements like the one you made. Although Aho has only put up 75+ points twice in his career, and if we’re being honest is just a worse version of Pettersson (which isn’t a knock, Aho is a great player and a top 15-20C, but Pettersson is a top 5-8C in the league)
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 14
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He's having a fluke 100-point season. He's a reliable 2C at best most of the time while being an elite defensive player (So basically KK). Svech, Marty and Aho are much better than he is


Theres no way you jut called him a reliable 2C at best... Coldest take of all time
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 15
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I was more just making outrageous statements like the one you made. Although Aho has only put up 75+ points twice in his career, and if we’re being honest is just a worse version of Pettersson (which isn’t a knock, Aho is a great player and a top 15-20C, but Pettersson is a top 5-8C in the league)


Petterson and Aho are in the same class of centers. One great season doesn't get to pull vault you up the rankings. Besides this season he's basically a PPG player like Aho is and they are both very good defensively (Although Aho does get overshadowed by KK and Staal).
7 mai 2023 à 20 h 17
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Theres no way you jut called him a reliable 2C at best... Coldest take of all time


Okay, that might be a bit harsh but he isn't a class above Aho... He's in Aho's class of Centerman if not a little worse
7 mai 2023 à 20 h 17
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Quoting: seanrushton
Petterson and Aho are in the same class of centers. One great season doesn't get to pull vault you up the rankings. Besides this season he's basically a PPG player like Aho is and they are both very good defensively (Although Aho does get overshadowed by KK and Staal).


Not even. Pettersson is a career point per game player. This is called a break out year buddy. That is like saying McDavid's season is a fluke because he put up 30 more points than his previous career best. What an uneducated take by you. Pettersson is better offensively and defensively. Aho's defensive metrics are average at best.
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 18
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Okay, that might be a bit harsh but he isn't a class above Aho... He's in Aho's class of Centerman if not a little worse


"A little worse"

May be the most bias take I've seen in a long time. Pettersson is better offensively and defensively. The points prove it. The eye test proves it. The analytics prove it. Pettersson blows Aho out of the park
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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Petterson and Aho are in the same class of centers. One great season doesn't get to pull vault you up the rankings. Besides this season he's basically a PPG player like Aho is and they are both very good defensively (Although Aho does get overshadowed by KK and Staal).


Aho's underlying numbers show that he is not actually good defensively. Several years in a row with negative defensive GAR. Very good is generous. He is borderline bad
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7 mai 2023 à 20 h 22
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Not even. Pettersson is a career point per game player. This is called a break out year buddy. That is like saying McDavid's season is a fluke because he put up 30 more points than his previous career best. What an uneducated take by you. Pettersson is better offensively and defensively. Aho's defensive metrics are average at best.


It's one good season... the NHL is littered with overpaid trades because of one good year. Not by points... Aho has him beat or tied 4 out of the 5 years. Aho's a below average 5v5 defensive player I'll grant you that but I don't think that Petterson is out of Aho's weight class when it comes to centerman. If Petterson has another season like he did then I'll revisit my take but until he proves that it isn't just one year of really good play... I'm gonna treat his 100+ points as an aberration

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