SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Panarin Value

Créé par: HOCKEYBOY448
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2023
Publié: 6 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Does there need to be more headed Vegas’ way? A 1st? Sykora? Jones or Robertson? Obviously this would come down to Panarin waiving his NMC, but it could be cool for both sides. Top line of Panarin, Eichel and Stone would be filthy. Saves Vegas about just under a $1 mil. Allows the Rangers to fill a few holes in the lineup. And reinforce the right side. Admittedly the left side would be extremely young. Unless we reworked the lineup to move Smith over.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
23 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
21 600 000 $
Transactions
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de NYR
Logo de COL
Logo de NYR
Logo de WPG
2024
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de NYR
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de MIN
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 366 249 $610 892 $932 500 $133 751 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 437 500 $4 437 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
787 500 $787 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
766 667 $766 667 $
C
RFA - 2

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
6 mai 2023 à 11 h 50
#1
spoiled penguins fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2022
Messages: 2,695
Mentions "j'aime": 1,487
Not even close, you’ve gotta add
6 mai 2023 à 11 h 51
#2
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: Pensman69
Not even close, you’ve gotta add


That was what I was thinking. I personally wouldn’t mind adding Laf to that deal and a 1st. Then keep Smith on the left wing and sign Jesper Fast for the 3rd line with the money not used to sign Laf.
Pensman69 a aimé ceci.
6 mai 2023 à 11 h 55
#3
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,519
Mentions "j'aime": 8,578
On what planet can a capped strapped Vegas team? Can afford Panarin. Oh that's right they can't.
6 mai 2023 à 11 h 59
#4
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
On what planet can a capped strapped Vegas team? Can afford Panarin. Oh that's right they can't.


The move above saves $850k for them. Albeit creates some holes, made an updated version of this with what I think is a better balanced trade value.
Pensman69 a aimé ceci.
6 mai 2023 à 13 h 34
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
That was what I was thinking. I personally wouldn’t mind adding Laf to that deal and a 1st. Then keep Smith on the left wing and sign Jesper Fast for the 3rd line with the money not used to sign Laf.


You need to add to the VEGAS SIde.
The rangers are not taking on Mcnabb a bottom pair D (on the rangers)
Roy a 4th liner on the rangers (and produces 30 pts) at 3 million.
Reilly Smith a 3rd liner on the rangers at 5 million cap hit.

Both Roy and Smith produce less than panarin on his own.

This is a package of mediocre for an top 5 Left winger.
6 mai 2023 à 13 h 45
#6
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: slater417
You need to add to the VEGAS SIde.
The rangers are not taking on Mcnabb a bottom pair D (on the rangers)
Roy a 4th liner on the rangers (and produces 30 pts) at 3 million.
Reilly Smith a 3rd liner on the rangers at 5 million cap hit.

Both Roy and Smith produce less than panarin on his own.

This is a package of mediocre for an top 5 Left winger.


My objective was to make the Rangers a harder team to play against and better suited for the playoffs. This move does this.
6 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
My objective was to make the Rangers a harder team to play against and better suited for the playoffs. This move does this.


So the islanders?

The problem isnt actually the rangers roster, its the lack of coaching and effort. They have players capable of playing a physical game, who in games 3-7 absolutely didnt.
6 mai 2023 à 16 h 39
#8
Mods have power egos
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,686
Mentions "j'aime": 1,278
Quoting: slater417
You need to add to the VEGAS SIde.
The rangers are not taking on Mcnabb a bottom pair D (on the rangers)
Roy a 4th liner on the rangers (and produces 30 pts) at 3 million.
Reilly Smith a 3rd liner on the rangers at 5 million cap hit.

Both Roy and Smith produce less than panarin on his own.

This is a package of mediocre for an top 5 Left winger.


Not a top 5 lw anymore and this trade saves us some cap and fills hole
HOCKEYBOY448 a aimé ceci.
6 mai 2023 à 21 h 0
#9
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Not a top 5 lw anymore and this trade saves us some cap and fills hole


Thank you.
6 mai 2023 à 21 h 6
#10
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: slater417
So the islanders?

The problem isnt actually the rangers roster, its the lack of coaching and effort. They have players capable of playing a physical game, who in games 3-7 absolutely didnt.


Without Panarin there is still more offensive talent on the Rangers than the Islanders and that’s not a slight to the Isles. Plus all that talent didn’t do a thing come playoff time. It’s about having a team good enough to make the playoffs and actually be built for the style of play that playoff hockey requires in order to compete. The past two playoffs didn’t show enough for me to believe Panarin is that guy for us.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 4
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Without Panarin there is still more offensive talent on the Rangers than the Islanders and that’s not a slight to the Isles. Plus all that talent didn’t do a thing come playoff time. It’s about having a team good enough to make the playoffs and actually be built for the style of play that playoff hockey requires in order to compete. The past two playoffs didn’t show enough for me to believe Panarin is that guy for us.


you still have to make it to the playoffs. You cant move someone like panarin without getting back significantly more production than that.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 6
#12
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Not a top 5 lw anymore and this trade saves us some cap and fills hole


It also opens some. And yeah he's still a top 5 Left wing.
Tkachuk, robertson, Kaprizov, Maybe make a case for gaudreau. Thats it.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 7
#13
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: slater417
you still have to make it to the playoffs. You cant move someone like panarin without getting back significantly more production than that.


There is zero shot the team above misses the playoffs unless half the team was hurt or mysteriously died. You clearly can’t see the other side of a trade for the opposite team. If it doesn’t hurt both sides it isn’t fair. Plus I’m after improving the overall team instead of the 1 trick pony and relying on the powerplay to save us like the last 2 years.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 9
#14
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 6,564
Mentions "j'aime": 3,279
Quoting: slater417
It also opens some. And yeah he's still a top 5 Left wing.
Tkachuk, robertson, Kaprizov, Maybe make a case for gaudreau. Thats it.


Means nothing if he doesn’t show up when needed most in the playoffs. Imagine if Kreider hadn’t scored as much as he did, we probably would’ve been swept.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 14
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
There is zero shot the team above misses the playoffs unless half the team was hurt or mysteriously died. You clearly can’t see the other side of a trade for the opposite team. If it doesn’t hurt both sides it isn’t fair. Plus I’m after improving the overall team instead of the 1 trick pony and relying on the powerplay to save us like the last 2 years.


You subtract 30 points in the season with the aformentinoed players added, and you're looking at losing an additional 10 games or so.

Ive got no problem in looking at a balanced trade. The point I'm making from the rangers perspective is, that you can't move a player like panarin for "small pieces". He's still a top 10 player at his position, he's still had consecutive back to back 90 pt seasons, and if you ignore the panademic shortened season he's been a 90 pt guy every single year.

Yeah his playoffs were bad, but production is still production. Moving panarin might be a thing, but not for something like this.
7 mai 2023 à 13 h 16
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 599
Mentions "j'aime": 180
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Means nothing if he doesn’t show up when needed most in the playoffs. Imagine if Kreider hadn’t scored as much as he did, we probably would’ve been swept.


I mean i dont disagree with you on the second half of that statement. But lets be clear, panarin isn't the only one at fault here. How effective was Mika? How effective was fox?
literally the only player who showed up for the entire series was Igor.

You moving mika and fox? Because they were both absolutely terrible the entire series.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage