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Hypothetical Winnipeg Jets Squad with draft picks only

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Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2023
Publié: 30 avr. 2023
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30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 37
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This is much better then the team now.
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30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 38
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
This is much better then the team now.


Ya man, it's not that bad. Defense is a bit thin, but a year or two from now with some more experience be pretty solid roster.
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30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 44
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Poolman was a good pick for a 5th rounder. The coach of this hypothetical team might pick the veteran because if we are going with homegrown products, the homegrown coach would be Claude Noel.
30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 50
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Poolman was a good pick for a 5th rounder. The coach of this hypothetical team might pick the veteran because if we are going with homegrown products, the homegrown coach would be Claude Noel.


Poolman has bin on LTIR half of last season and all of this one. Unless were debating the merits of the butterfly effect, if he never left maybe he'd never get injured....
30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 51
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This is much better then the team now.


Lot of folks go off about the teams inability to draft. Thought I'd see what it looks like.
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30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 52
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Poolman has bin on LTIR half of last season and all of this one. Unless were debating the merits of the butterfly effect, if he never left maybe he'd never get injured....


I didn't know he was out. I was going with the thought process that middling coach would pick middling player.
30 avr. 2023 à 20 h 55
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Lot of folks go off about the teams inability to draft. Thought I'd see what it looks like.


I was under the impression that most people think that the Jets draft well, but trading is Cheveldayoff's weakness. The worst draft pick I can remember was Lukas Sutter at 39 overall.
30 avr. 2023 à 21 h 0
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I was under the impression that most people think that the Jets draft well, but trading is Cheveldayoff's weakness. The worst draft pick I can remember was Lukas Sutter at 39 overall.


Haven’t been able to draft or develop in 5 years, waiver wire beating our draftpicks to the lineup and a few moose making it to a few other rosters.
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Haven’t been able to draft or develop in 5 years, waiver wire beating our draftpicks to the lineup and a few moose making it to a few other rosters.


Asset management and development are definitely poor, but draft picks have generally been acceptable in the 2.0 era.
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30 avr. 2023 à 21 h 7
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Asset management and development are definitely poor, but draft picks have generally been acceptable in the 2.0 era.

Not counting last 2/3 I still think there’s an awful streak vaselainen/stanley/heinola and even perfetti can’t prove he can stay on the ice. Kid in Florida could have been helpful this playoff. Heinola wasn’t even an injury replacement and stanley wasn’t even a regular in the lineup. I just don’t understand the rope that Chevy is allowed, not awful and possibly something to build on but it seems like he’s treated like he’s Kenny Holland and has a dynasty under his belt.
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Lot of folks go off about the teams inability to draft. Thought I'd see what it looks like.


It hasn't been great since the Laine pick though.
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It hasn't been great since the Laine pick though.


I wonder if that coincides with Marcel Comeau stepping back as head amateur scout. He stepped back after the 2015 draft and Laine was a no-brainer in 2016, so everyone else in the past 7 years is on the new guy.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
It hasn't been great since the Laine pick though.


To early to tell. Vaisailin was a bust.

Heinola is just turning 22 I remember when Morrissey was considered a bust at the same age then he got his shot when Trouba held out.

Perfetti put up 30 points in 51 games while being defensively sound. I love how often he reads a play and breaks it up with his stick. He was injured but he's smaller let him put on some muscle he'll be fine.

Lucious has bin hit with the injury bug but looked good in the World Juniors and his short stint in the WHL

Mcgrotery put up solid numbers in the NCAA this year. Lambert has 17 points in 7 playoff games. Just 3 shy of Bedard 20 in 7, he's showing why he was considered a top 5 pick at one point playing against his own age group.

Even Stanley is a useful NHL defensmen. If only a 3rd pairing one.

We've bin drafting in the late teens other then Perfetti those guys usually take time. If KC played a year in college, went down to the A after 20 games. Then when he was called up he didn't go back down. Future isn't as bleak as it feels.
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I wonder if there has been a change in the communications strategy because the organization been scoring some own goals in that department this year:
- "This isn't fantasy hockey" (Cheveldayoff with the hyperbolic response to questions at the TDL)
- "Don't let the facts stand in the way of a good story" (Cheveldayoff in response to being questioned at the end of the playoffs)
- the oddly passive-aggressive season ticket drive

At least Scheifele’s and Dubois’ agents have likely given them some media training so that last offseason’s verbal gaffes did not happen on garbage bag day. That said, I was on Team Chaos for that day.

Edit: Actually it was Dubois' agent and not Dubois and it was calculated and not a gaffe. In any event, I am 100% on Team Chaos for this offseason.
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To early to tell. Vaisailin was a bust.

Heinola is just turning 22 I remember when Morrissey was considered a bust at the same age then he got his shot when Trouba held out.

Perfetti put up 30 points in 51 games while being defensively sound. I love how often he reads a play and breaks it up with his stick. He was injured but he's smaller let him put on some muscle he'll be fine.

Lucious has bin hit with the injury bug but looked good in the World Juniors and his short stint in the WHL

Mcgrotery put up solid numbers in the NCAA this year. Lambert has 17 points in 7 playoff games. Just 3 shy of Bedard 20 in 7, he's showing why he was considered a top 5 pick at one point playing against his own age group.

Even Stanley is a useful NHL defensmen. If only a 3rd pairing one.

We've bin drafting in the late teens other then Perfetti those guys usually take time. If KC played a year in college, went down to the A after 20 games. Then when he was called up he didn't go back down. Future isn't as bleak as it feels.


Well sure but those are all 1st rounders, outside of Samberg there's nothing past the 1st round that's contributing other then to the AHL team or Montreal (Kovacevic).

For all the praise the Jets get for their drafting they don't do very well past round one, guess all my point is their drafting and developing really isn't any better then anyone else's so wish that narrative would stop.
30 avr. 2023 à 22 h 8
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I wonder if there has been a change in the communications strategy because the organization been scoring some own goals in that department this year:
- "This isn't fantasy hockey" (Cheveldayoff with the hyperbolic response to questions at the TDL)
- "Don't let the facts stand in the way of a good story" (Cheveldayoff in response to being questioned at the end of the playoffs)
- the oddly passive-aggressive season ticket drive

At least Scheifele’s and Dubois’ agents have likely given them some media training so that last offseason’s verbal gaffes did not happen on garbage bag day. That said, I was on Team Chaos for that day.

Edit: Actually it was Dubois' agent and not Dubois and it was calculated and not a gaffe. In any event, I am 100% on Team Chaos for this offseason.


What was Chevy referring to with the: "Dont let the facts stand in the way of a good story"??
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What was Chevy referring to with the: "Dont let the facts stand in the way of a good story"??


That was today's media availability.
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From The Athletic:
Over the course of 42 minutes on Sunday, Cheveldayoff recoiled from criticisms of his tenure as GM. He sold the team’s modest but real improvement and fourth playoff qualification in the last six seasons as an accomplishment. He responded to the stat that Winnipeg has won the 25th most playoff games since 2011-12 with a walkthrough of the Jets’ draft-and-develop history. When it was then pointed out that Winnipeg has won one playoff series since 2017-18’s success, Cheveldayoff bristled. He doubled down on the 2018 Western Conference finals appearance and the 2021 sweep of the Oilers, later adding, “Don’t let facts stand in the way of a good story.”

It’s clear in the comments on this site that fans’ frustration is approaching a boiling point. On social media, Cheveldayoff’s deadline day insistence that Winnipeg had all of the pieces to compete for the Stanley Cup is making the rounds. So too is his retort to fans who wanted to see the Jets do more at the trade deadline. “This isn’t fantasy hockey,” he said. “This is real.” But fans don’t want to be patronized for their critique of the team they love. They want to be told how and why things are going to get better.


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This is a truly bizzare communications strategy in my view.
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30 avr. 2023 à 22 h 32
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It hasn't been great since the Laine pick though.


Even in the laine draft, Dubois and tkachuk was also there, i so wanted a gunslinger gm, it would have been so good to have found your way to that Canucks pick and scooped Calgary in tkachuk, jets room would have been in some chaos way sooner throwing that fire cracker into it
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And our Lame Duck Coach from last season just coached his Panthers past the Bruins down 3-1 in the series.
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Even in the laine draft, Dubois and tkachuk was also there, i so wanted a gunslinger gm, it would have been so good to have found your way to that Canucks pick and scooped Calgary in tkachuk, jets room would have been in some chaos way sooner throwing that fire cracker into it


Meh, I'd take Laine over those two pieces of **** anytime.
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And our Lame Duck Coach from last season just coached his Panthers past the Bruins down 3-1 in the series.


... and the interim coach's team (associate coach, Kraken) is leading 1-0 in the 2nd
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Meh, I'd take Laine over those two pieces of **** anytime.


Yes me too, but just don’t believe Chevy even has it In the arsenal to go get that pick he needs or wants, trades back plenty of times but never seems to have the ability to hang it all out there and go get what he wants
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... and the interim coach's team (associate coach, Kraken) is leading 1-0 in the 2nd


Make that 2-0
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Make that 2-0


... and Claude Noel's team is still in the playoffs. He's a pro scout with NJD.
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Yes me too, but just don’t believe Chevy even has it In the arsenal to go get that pick he needs or wants, trades back plenty of times but never seems to have the ability to hang it all out there and go get what he wants


He's definitely under pressure. Usually he communicates in word salad, but now he is defensive too.

Will that pressure amount to substantive changes in hockey operations? I doubt it.
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