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After tonight who would want Dubois as a rental

Créé par: LIRIK
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 27 avr. 2023
Publié: 27 avr. 2023
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Just rip the bandaid off WPG. Dubois just doesn't care anymore, he wants to be a Habs.

Seriously, after watching tonight's game, which team would pay for PLD as a rental?

You can switch CGY 24/25 1st for MTL 2023 37th overall pick if you want an earlier pick.
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27 avr. 2023 à 23 h 53
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Going to be 2023 first kidney and hoffman lol
27 avr. 2023 à 23 h 54
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most of them? no one will care about about this game in 9 months.
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27 avr. 2023 à 23 h 55
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most of them? no one will care about about this game in 9 months.


No one will care that the Jets have no leverage in 8-9 months. They'll get the Thomas Vanek price of a 2nd rounder knowing Chevy's bargaining tactics.

Been saying since the start of the Friedman bandaid rip off. Beck aint going anywhere.
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27 avr. 2023 à 23 h 57
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Jets are down 4-0 who do you think is actually positive right now it's not like he did nothing this series. I'd take back a worse prospect for the 2023 first like kidney Jets can't afford to wait that long for a unknown 1st
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Quoting: drambui
most of them? no one will care about about this game in 9 months.


The way he played tonight, he proved he doesn't care about winning anywhere else but MTL. GMs will remember.
27 avr. 2023 à 23 h 58
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The way he played tonight, he proved he doesn't care about winning anywhere else but MTL. GMs will remember.


pretty much all the players on winnipeg didnt show up... so will no team want them?
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Quoting: LIRIK
The way he played tonight, he proved he doesn't care about winning anywhere else but MTL. GMs will remember.


You dont have to really remember much. Just look at the scoreboard. Guy's career high is 63 points, never scored 30 goals. All ppl really think about him is that he never sticks anywhere and he's a malcontent.
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No one will care that the Jets have no leverage in 8-9 months. They'll get the Thomas Vanek price of a 2nd rounder knowing Chevy's bargaining tactics.

Been saying since the start of the Friedman bandaid rip off. Beck aint going anywhere.


no leverage? what does that even mean?
28 avr. 2023 à 0 h 1
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The way he played tonight, he proved he doesn't care about winning anywhere else but MTL. GMs will remember.


That is not what his message is lol. He disappointed in the result of the series that was already difficult to begin with. He hasn't even been terrible. One game in the playoffs doesn't eliminate his career year in points in not an 82 game season for him or season high assists and still 4 points in 5 playoff games. One game doesn't define a season like that.
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Going to be 2023 first kidney and hoffman lol


I'd be okay with that too. Beck is a really good prospect, he's having great playoffs right now. Makes me think of 2019 Suzuki, carrying his team against tougher OHL teams. I could see him carry them to the Memorial Cup. If he does, he could rise as high as 10-15 in a 2022 redraft.
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I'd be okay with that too. Beck is a really good prospect, he's having great playoffs right now. Makes me think of 2019 Suzuki, carrying his team against tougher OHL teams. I could see him carry them to the Memorial Cup. If he does, he could rise as high as 10-15 in a 2022 redraft.


Yeah thats really good for him. I don't care about the quality of prospect as long as they are still decent. Kidney seems to be a teir below beck rn just based on how beck should fit. Kidney and the 2023 first seems bang on. Ik you say that don't trade the 2023 first if they are the only one offering but obviously the jets have some part in this deal as it needs to be something they want. A pick that late for a player that could be worse just doesn't seem worth it
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Quoting: drambui
pretty much all the players on winnipeg didnt show up... so will no team want them?


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That is not what his message is lol. He disappointed in the result of the series that was already difficult to begin with. He hasn't even been terrible. One game in the playoffs doesn't eliminate his career year in points in not an 82 game season for him or season high assists and still 4 points in 5 playoff games. One game doesn't define a season like that.


No team wanting them is an exageration, but they really lowered their value tonight by not showing up in the most important game of their season.

I can't see a team giving alot more than a late 1st for PLD as a rental in 2024. Maybe another late pick for retaining 50% salary. MTL offer will be the best by far.
28 avr. 2023 à 0 h 9
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That definitely isn't close to getting a call back from Winnipeg. Way too easily beaten by multiple teams.
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Yeah thats really good for him. I don't care about the quality of prospect as long as they are still decent. Kidney seems to be a teir below beck rn just based on how beck should fit. Kidney and the 2023 first seems bang on. Ik you say that don't trade the 2023 first if they are the only one offering but obviously the jets have some part in this deal as it needs to be something they want. A pick that late for a player that could be worse just doesn't seem worth it


If i was WPG, i'd be all over Beck, i really believe he could be the steal of the 2022 draft, but maybe that's just me being biased about MTL keeping the FLA 1st.
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No team wanting them is an exageration, but they really lowered their value tonight by not showing up in the most important game of their season.

I can't see a team giving alot more than a late 1st for PLD as a rental in 2024. Maybe another late pick for retaining 50% salary. MTL offer will be the best by far.


in 9 month you will not remember this game nor any GM will. but today is today and not 9 months away so i understand it can be hard to believe. thats how the human brain works. trust me, this game doesnt change a single thing with his value. Maybe Mtl will still trafe for him, maybe he goes as a rental, but whatever happened today wont really matter just like that last thing everyone thought really mattered did not matter because everyone his thinking about the latest event.
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That definitely isn't close to getting a call back from Winnipeg. Way too easily beaten by multiple teams.


I don't think a team would make an offer at the 2023 draft, or give more than a 2024 late 1st at TDL for Dubois. And no team is adding a prospect as good as Beck.

Just take CGY 1st and Beck. 1st have good conditions and Beck is having such good playoffs, he should be top 15 in a 2022 redraft.
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Quoting: drambui
in 9 month you will not remember this game nor any GM will. but today is today and not 9 months away so i understand it can be hard to believe. thats how the human brain works. trust me, this game doesnt change a single thing with his value. Maybe Mtl will still trafe for him, maybe he goes as a rental, but whatever happened today wont really matter just like that last thing everyone thought really mattered did not matter because everyone his thinking about the latest event.


I would remember a player who stated he wanted out of WPG, then let his team down in playoffs because he just doesn't care anymore.

GMs will still make decent offers for him at TDL, but he really lowered his value tonight. I can't see tonight's game having zero impact on his value.
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I don't think a team would make an offer at the 2023 draft, or give more than a 2024 late 1st at TDL for Dubois. And no team is adding a prospect as good as Beck.

Just take CGY 1st and Beck. 1st have good conditions and Beck is having such good playoffs, he should be top 15 in a 2022 redraft.


It doesn't really matter what you think. This ACGM really shows that you're too reactionary, emotional, short sighted and heavily influenced by small sample sizes. The Jets will have no problem getting more than this lame offer.
28 avr. 2023 à 0 h 23
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"Look how bad he is"

"HERE, TAKE A 1ST AND HIGH PROSPECT"
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28 avr. 2023 à 0 h 23
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If i was WPG, i'd be all over Beck, i really believe he could be the steal of the 2022 draft, but maybe that's just me being biased about MTL keeping the FLA 1st.


Yeah like I'd personally rather take the risk on the 1st then beck. We have bottom 6 guys like zhilkin who could be that 3rd line center. Just rather draft our own guy. I know beck is pretty good but that should mean mtl should want to keep him no? Kidney and beck are both center and I get your concept of a better prospect and lower value pick. Jets should look to draft and develop their own picks they don't have the greatest track record when it comes to prospects via trade.
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I would remember a player who stated he wanted out of WPG, then let his team down in playoffs because he just doesn't care anymore.

GMs will still make decent offers for him at TDL, but he really lowered his value tonight. I can't see tonight's game having zero impact on his value.


the whole team is a let down for the jets this playoffs. its winnipeg, you know everyone outside a few guys wished they were somewhere else. (sorry jets fan, i still cheered for you). if Pld is.moved he will go to a serious contender for the cup. players care about winning cup. he will show that he is motivated.
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"Look how bad he is"

"HERE, TAKE A 1ST AND HIGH PROSPECT"


the PLD paradox.
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It doesn't really matter what you think. This ACGM really shows that you're too reactionary, emotional, short sighted and heavily influenced by small sample sizes. The Jets will have no problem getting more than this lame offer.


I can't see a team offering more than a late 1st with good conditions and a prospect as good as Beck.

But since you think a team would, what kind of offer would WPG receive for PLD? Two 1st? CGY 1st and Beck is better. Mid 1st and a prospect better than Beck? Not happening.

Face it, Beck and a late 1st would beat any offer. I think MTL is overpaying and it's not even close. Late 1st and a meh prospect is the best you'll get from another team.
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"Look how bad he is"

"HERE, TAKE A 1ST AND HIGH PROSPECT"


I didn't say he's bad, he just doesn't want to play anywhere but MTL.

That's just so we don't screw WPG over. I don't care about CGY 1st and i really like Beck, but he's expendable if PLD is coming to MTL.
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I can't see a team offering more than a late 1st with good conditions and a prospect as good as Beck.

But since you think a team would, what kind of offer would WPG receive for PLD? Two 1st? CGY 1st and Beck is better. Mid 1st and a prospect better than Beck? Not happening.

Face it, Beck and a late 1st would beat any offer. I think MTL is overpaying and it's not even close. Late 1st and a meh prospect is the best you'll get from another team.


You have to face it. A lowball offer won't work. You'll need an offer comparable to the Horvat deal to be competitive. You get far too emotional about this and refuse to think logically and rationally about the trade.
 
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