Quoting: Campabee
Again, what contender has the cap space + a 1st in the 11-16 range + a good prospect like Kidney they are willing to give up without having to send cap back to the Jets? You keep skirting around this question cause you know the answer as well as I do, there is not a single contender with the cap space to add PLD without sending cap back, also no contender has a 1st in the range of 11-16 either. Many have late 1st's and good prospects but they would still have to send cap back and the later 1st and prospect aren't going to be equivalent to a mid 1st and good prospect. No matter what team you deal with, they are going to have to send cap back. Point is Kidney + 2024 1st (top 10 protected) and a cap offset is what you are likely to get from any non-contender and (let's use Colorado as an example) a late 1st + Olausson + Girard (cap offset) is likely what you are getting from a contender. The roster player is probably better (as is the case here) but the pick isn't and the prospect is debatable IMO.
I’ve said in previous posts, including above, I said nothing about draft position, only comparable trade. It could be a better prospect and lesser pick.
I also said I think the deal ends up DV, FLA 1st and one of Kidney, Beck, Roy or the like.
In regards to the cap issue, it’s off season. Teams are allowed to go over, and they can make trades to other teams to clear that cap. Third party teams can be involved. I see Peg doing a mini retool so I can see Chipman not wanting cap coming back to keep overhead low, so I see a third team involved or a player being moved after the fact.
I’m not adverse to Winnipeg taking DV as part of the deal. He’s be a useful roster player, but if the deal went into the off season I see another team targeting dubois as a rental or with hopes they can sign him long term without cap, or as much cap coming back.