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    Assuming they have the 7th or 8th pick and aren’t in the top 6 range of (Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson, Benson and Smith range),

    It will be a RD either Reinbacher or Sandin Pellikka. It just makes too much sense after trading away Hronek and either of those players would make an excellent pair with Edvinsson on the 2nd pair.
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      This pick is most likely 18th I think, so this is where I think Yzerman will grab a forward after trading away Bertuzzi. They’re gonna want a guy with some size , and some good forwards will likely be available at 18.

      This is where I think they grab one of Wood, Stramel, Musty, Yager, Ritchie, But, Sale, Dvorsky or Honzek.
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      21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 45
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      I think that you're 100% right on the prognostications. Now let's see if Stevie lives up to them. smile
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      21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 55
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      I think the best thing Stevie can do is manage a way to get Pittsburgh's 1st in a deal for Petry (maybe send a 2nd and Mastrosimone or whatever),

      Draft Moore @ 9OA
      Use 15OA+17OA to get some package that gets us up to either Reinbacher or Pellikka
      and then Draft Willander in the 2nd round.
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      21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 57
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      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      I think the best thing Stevie can do is manage a way to get Pittsburgh's 1st in a deal for Petry (maybe send a 2nd and Mastrosimone or whatever),

      Draft Moore 9OA
      Use 15OA+17OA to get some package that gets us up to either Reinbacher or Pellikka
      and then Draft Willander in the 2nd round.


      I don’t think any of the RDs make it to 14 which is why I’m betting on Yzerman doing exactly what I’m saying. Vancouver will likely nab one of them if you let them slide and then there’s Arizona and Buffalo . No chance
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      21 avr. 2023 à 17 h 58
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      I don’t think any of the RDs make it to 14 which is why I’m betting on Yzerman doing exactly what I’m saying. Vancouver will likely nab one of them if you let them slide and then there’s Arizona and Buffalo . No chance


      Hence why I mentioned using the PIT+NYI "to get some package" that'll ensure either.
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      Hence why I mentioned using the PIT+NYI "to get some package" that'll ensure either.


      It just doesn’t make sense tbh. Because the forwards that will be in the 14-18 range arent that much worse than the forwards in the 7-9 range . You might as well grab the Dman first . After the top 6 guys, it’s much more wide open imo
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 0
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      Hence why I mentioned using the PIT+NYI "to get some package" that'll ensure either.


      Whether that package be 11OA + two 2nds or 11OA and a Coneydog; I'd be happy.
      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 1
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      It just doesn’t make sense tbh. Because the forwards that will be in the 14-18 range arent that much worse than the forwards in the 7-9 range . You might as well grab the Dman first .


      I think we both have different opinions on Oliver Moore
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 2
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      I think we both have different opinions on Oliver Moore


      I like Moore and I think he might be the 7th guy in that draft. Barlow and Leonard are up there too.
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 6
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      A blues fan who doesn’t know Detroit super well:

      Don’t you all have a ton of D prospects? My brain is telling me you have a lot of em. Dunno if it’s wrong or not.

      Regardless, my opinion is the smartest start to a rebuild is defense first - as they take longer. Seems Detroit is on the proper path to building a strong team.
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      A blues fan who doesn’t know Detroit super well:

      Don’t you all have a ton of D prospects? My brain is telling me you have a lot of em. Dunno if it’s wrong or not.

      Regardless, my opinion is the smartest start to a rebuild is defense first - as they take longer. Seems Detroit is on the proper path to building a strong team.


      They have a lot of LDs , right not as much
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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      Please no to a Rd at 9 I like reinbacker but I just don't think he's worth this pick. Moore or Leonard or Dvorsky would be my preference. 18 could be anything depending how the draft shakes out.
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      Please no to a Rd at 9 I like reinbacker but I just don't think he's worth this pick. Moore or Leonard or Dvorsky would be my preference. 18 could be anything depending how the draft shakes out.


      Based on everything I’ve seen from Reinbacher , he’s got all the makings of a great 2 way Dman that’s really good on both ends. You can’t pass on that , he has great gap control, great at creating offence
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 24
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      Based on everything I’ve seen from Reinbacher , he’s got all the makings of a great 2 way Dman that’s really good on both ends. You can’t pass on that , he has great gap control, great at creating offence


      I like the prospect I really do but I don't want him over some of the forwards in this draft we can get.
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      I like the prospect I really do but I don't want him over some of the forwards in this draft we can get.


      I think it’s more about how good of a forward you can get with the Isles pick
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      I think it’s more about how good of a forward you can get with the Isles pick


      Yeah probably I get the logic, get a Rd early and the best forward available at 18. It might be the right thing to do but I'd just prefer the higher end forward with the first pick. There's a big difference in 9 and 18 to me. If the 3 or 4 guys I really like are gone then ok Reinbacker.
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 43
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      I like Moore and I think he might be the 7th guy in that draft. Barlow and Leonard are up there too.


      Barlow and Leonard are below Moore. The only winger outside of Carlson and Mitchkov that is worth considering is Benson. If Moore is on tbe board at 9, you nab him. I almost wonder if Moore goes before Smith, to be honest. I also am certain that Pelikka will go in tbe top 8, maybe in the 3-6 range depending on who is drafting there. After Pelikka and Reinbacher, the D talent drops quite dramatically, so if you are looking for a D in your system (both righties so they are at a premium), you gotta do it early. If it comes down to Pelikka or Moore, I think Yzerman goes Moore simply because a 1b center is more valuable than a second pairing D (because Seider is 1D).

      All that said, Pelikka might be ready to go in a year or two, while Moore is going to likely take 4 or so years to hit his stride. If Detroit stays at 9, one of Moore, Pelikka, or Reinbacher, or possibly (unlikely) Smith. If Detroit slides at all, hopefully Benson is still on the board at 11. There could be some surprise falling too, like Mitchkov for being unavailable for awhile or Carlson because he can't (doesnt) play center with men (LW all year in tbe SHL).
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      21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 49
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      Wings have either 1st overall, 2nd overall, 9th overall or 10th overall.
      If it's 1st or 2nd its Bedard / Fantilli, but I could also see Steve going with Michkov if Wings had 2nd overall as he's arguably the better player, just won't be around until 2026. That won't scare Steve off.
      If Wings have 9th or 10th I see them taking Moore or Yager if they're available.
      Wings pick will be 18th overall barring a NYI comeback and they make the ECF. At 18 Detroit takes another forward. I could totally see them going for Honzek if he's available.
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      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      I think the best thing Stevie can do is manage a way to get Pittsburgh's 1st in a deal for Petry (maybe send a 2nd and Mastrosimone or whatever),

      Draft Moore 9OA
      Use 15OA+17OA to get some package that gets us up to either Reinbacher or Pellikka
      and then Draft Willander in the 2nd round.


      I would love getting into the top 15 almost any way possible, without giving up too too much. Petry sure, Carter throw him in, Granlund well I guess might as well but nothing going back then lol
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      21 avr. 2023 à 19 h 38
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      Wings have either 1st overall, 2nd overall, 9th overall or 10th overall.
      If it's 1st or 2nd its Bedard / Fantilli, but I could also see Steve going with Michkov if Wings had 2nd overall as he's arguably the better player, just won't be around until 2026. That won't scare Steve off.
      If Wings have 9th or 10th I see them taking Moore or Yager if they're available.
      Wings pick will be 18th overall barring a NYI comeback and they make the ECF. At 18 Detroit takes another forward. I could totally see them going for Honzek if he's available.


      Or 11th. Let's be honest, that probably happens.

      I'd absolutely go Fantilli at 2. In 2 years, you have your 1C with Larkin as your 2C. You have plenty of talent at wing for your top 6 with Raymond, Mazur, and Berggren. Kasper should slot into 3C, and you have Copp and Rasmussen as 2nd line 3rd line wings or center fill ins. Heck, maybe Kasper is a stud and plays 2C and does the Datsyuk-Zetterberg thing with Larkin.
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      Or 11th. Let's be honest, that probably happens.

      I'd absolutely go Fantilli at 2. In 2 years, you have your 1C with Larkin as your 2C. You have plenty of talent at wing for your top 6 with Raymond, Mazur, and Berggren. Kasper should slot into 3C, and you have Copp and Rasmussen as 2nd line 3rd line wings or center fill ins. Heck, maybe Kasper is a stud and plays 2C and does the Datsyuk-Zetterberg thing with Larkin.


      Fantilli is going to be a stud. No question. But Michkov just has something extra special. If Russia had of been allowed in the last world juniors I think people wouldn’t be as light on Michkov. Put it this way. If Detroit had 2nd OA and took Michkov I’d be very ok with that. If Detroit took Fantilli I’d be very ok with that too. And yea. They totally could have 11OA. It’s like a 2% chance or something but with the wings luck it’s hardly out of the question. I feel like that 2% to draft 11th is higher than the 5% to draft Bedard 😂
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      Fantilli is going to be a stud. No question. But Michkov just has something extra special. If Russia had of been allowed in the last world juniors I think people wouldn’t be as light on Michkov. Put it this way. If Detroit had 2nd OA and took Michkov I’d be very ok with that. If Detroit took Fantilli I’d be very ok with that too. And yea. They totally could have 11OA. It’s like a 2% chance or something but with the wings luck it’s hardly out of the question. I feel like that 2% to draft 11th is higher than the 5% to draft Bedard 😂


      Michkov will be as good if not better than Kaprizov . Somewhere around Kaprizov/Kucherov
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      Michkov will be as good if not better than Kaprizov . Somewhere around Kaprizov/Kucherov


      Wings haven’t had a player like that since Fedorov.
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      Fantilli is going to be a stud. No question. But Michkov just has something extra special. If Russia had of been allowed in the last world juniors I think people wouldn’t be as light on Michkov. Put it this way. If Detroit had 2nd OA and took Michkov I’d be very ok with that. If Detroit took Fantilli I’d be very ok with that too. And yea. They totally could have 11OA. It’s like a 2% chance or something but with the wings luck it’s hardly out of the question. I feel like that 2% to draft 11th is higher than the 5% to draft Bedard 😂


      I can't deny Michkov should be 2nd overall, but aside from having to wait a few years, Russian players can be difficult to judge playing in the KHL. Some are absolute studs in the KHL, duds in the NHL, and studs when they go back. Michkov really is good, but Fantilli is a C, so I'd go that route.
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      I can't deny Michkov should be 2nd overall, but aside from having to wait a few years, Russian players can be difficult to judge playing in the KHL. Some are absolute studs in the KHL, duds in the NHL, and studs when they go back. Michkov really is good, but Fantilli is a C, so I'd go that route.


      Take the best talent available. Detroit took that take the centre over the winger route in 1990 and took Keith Primeau. Passing on the more talented but winger Jaromir Jagr.

      Imagine if they had Jagr in the 90’s on those wings teams. They’d of won 2 more cups.
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      Obviously it would fantastic to add either Reinbacher or Pellikka, but neither of them would be higher than on the 2nd pair. We have Söderblom, Mazur, Hanas, Berggren, Buchelnikov, Rasmussen, Lombardi…Etc. Good prospects, but none of them are Elite. If a guy like Michkov starts falling, Stevie trade up!

      Maybe you are right we’ll see.
       
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