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Semi-reasonable prediction to replace Barbashev

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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 7
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Johnson can become a ufa in August. Stl should just go for him for free.
19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 19
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Yeah, I think you're overpaying for both Colton (who is more useful as a C, btw) and Johnson.
19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Johnson can become a ufa in August. Stl should just go for him for free.


Yes but getting the assurance that he’d sign and a jump on any other suitor would be worth a few picks imo.
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 22
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Yeah, I think you're overpaying for both Colton (who is more useful as a C, btw) and Johnson.


Is trading second round picks for effective players under 27 ever an overpay?
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 24
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You want to give Ross Colton a 5 x 20mil contract?

Why does he deserve that type of money? Seems like a great candidiate for a smaller bridge. I'd love to have Colton, but Dean will probably be a very good Barbashev replacement.
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 25
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Yes but getting the assurance that he’d sign and a jump on any other suitor would be worth a few picks imo.


Fine by me as a sabres fan
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 27
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You want to give Ross Colton a 5 x 20mil contract?

Why does he deserve that type of money? Seems like a great candidiate for a smaller bridge. I'd love to have Colton, but Dean will probably be a very good Barbashev replacement.


Fair enough, I’m not sold on Colton tbf, but I think he fits in with what Armstrong has talked about since the deadline. Side note: Dean is a friggen DUDE. Really excited for him.
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19 avr. 2023 à 13 h 29
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Is trading second round picks for effective players under 27 ever an overpay?


For Colton, I was more thinking of the contract. Giving up a 24 2nd for him would be very agreeable.

For Johnson, dude is essentially worth a 24 2nd right now, because that's the compensation BUFF gets when anybody signs him after he walks (barring any sort of bidding tug of war, of course). Throwing another decent pick on is already more than generous enough, but then also throwing Bortz away like trash is just plain bad management. I cannot think of a single reason that is a clever idea. I'm really kinda gobsmacked so many Blues fans push it. Makes no sense at all. So all told, the Johnson thing is a fairly wild overpay (relatively speaking to the scale of solid/cheap role players, early mid round picks and B prospects).
19 avr. 2023 à 14 h 47
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For Colton, I was more thinking of the contract. Giving up a 24 2nd for him would be very agreeable.

For Johnson, dude is essentially worth a 24 2nd right now, because that's the compensation BUFF gets when anybody signs him after he walks (barring any sort of bidding tug of war, of course). Throwing another decent pick on is already more than generous enough, but then also throwing Bortz away like trash is just plain bad management. I cannot think of a single reason that is a clever idea. I'm really kinda gobsmacked so many Blues fans push it. Makes no sense at all. So all told, the Johnson thing is a fairly wild overpay (relatively speaking to the scale of solid/cheap role players, early mid round picks and B prospects).


Fair enough, perhaps you get him for cheaper. Johnson is a really good prospect though
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19 avr. 2023 à 15 h 26
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Fair enough, perhaps you get him for cheaper. Johnson is a really good prospect though


Yeah, Johnson is a good prospect with #4 upside, but this is a lot more than the price he should cost right now and his progress has kinda plateau-ed anyway.
19 avr. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Yeah, Johnson is a good prospect with #4 upside, but this is a lot more than the price he should cost right now and his progress has kinda plateau-ed anyway.


I disagree, I think he’s a 20 minute a night guy at some point
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19 avr. 2023 à 19 h 29
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I disagree, I think he’s a 20 minute a night guy at some point


I'm not talking about minutes.
20 avr. 2023 à 9 h 36
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I'm not talking about minutes.


Fair enough, but I guess I value a guy who can play a ton of minutes and break even quite a bit
20 avr. 2023 à 10 h 54
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Fair enough, but I guess I value a guy who can play a ton of minutes and break even quite a bit


Maybe he can, we shall see, but it's no given. And I'm not against acquiring Johnson. I'm just against overpaying by two assets for him.
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24 avr. 2023 à 12 h 45
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Btw I made a Blues fan poll on this topic, check it...

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/701667
 
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