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Could maybe contend for a spot in the division next year

Créé par: Mcdavid9797
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 25 mars 2023
Publié: 25 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1975 000 $
1900 000 $
43 000 000 $
2950 000 $
2975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
34 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Poehling, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Svejkovsky, Lukas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
The 2024 1st can be swapped out for the 2024 2nd if it seems like to much of a asking price. 3rd rounder is included for Vancouver retaining salary
PIT
  1. Miller, J.T. (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
This seems like what the return for Miller would look like, would be surprised if they get more than this because of their absurd asking price. The amount retained can be altered to 2 million or 2.5 as 1.5 was just a place holder but salary retention practically required for this trade.
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
To any team for any pick after the 4th round
PHI
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
don't think he will get resigned as others that cost much less have passed him on the depth chart
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de NYR
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2024
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Logo de VAN
Logo de VGK
Logo de VAN
Logo de NJD
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Logo de LAK
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2025
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Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $77 887 500 $850 000 $850 000 $5 612 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
975 000 $975 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 25
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I'd be shocked if Drouin gets that big of a contract. Use that money and sign a guy like Domi instead.

But no this team would not compete for a playoff spot. You didn't upgrade any of the things they need upgrading.

They need one more top 4 RD (an upgrade over Myers). A guy like Mayfield is perfect in my mind. And they need some defensive minded bottom 6 guys. And they need a proper #3C. Plus you traded away their legit #2C and downgraded to a fringe guy in Drouin.

The centre line up you listed here is BAD. Petterson, Miller, Domi would be a decent 1-2-3 punch.
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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 30
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The team is worse than this season's group with Miller, so I can't see them making the playoffs.
You're off by a about decimal point on Drouin's salary.....closer to 450,000 than 4.5m.
I don't see the Pens continuing having so many aging players and trading away futures....but if Canucks got that return, good for them.
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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 31
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This is my take on what I think they should do:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4073497
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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 36
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Hextall should be fired immediately if he's dumb enough to make that trade.
Does Allen Walsh have extremely compromising information on you? That's the only way he gets Drouin 4.5 million.
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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 38
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Miller is doing just fine. PPG 2C. Why retain? His contract is the cost of a player that produces that much.
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25 mars 2023 à 16 h 54
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Canucks need a 2nd C in return so I don't see the point
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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 44
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That's actually a pretty fair offer for Miller. If they made it 2.5MM it's definitely a 1st. If it's 1MM then, maybe a 2nd.

Van needs to trade Miller this offseason. His contract is going to be bad in 4 years, when they are aiming to be competitive again.
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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 48
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That's actually a pretty fair offer for Miller. If they made it 2.5MM it's definitely a 1st. If it's 1MM then, maybe a 2nd.


Canucks retaining for 7 years on a point per game top 6 center would be idiotic. That much retention would cost 2 first round picks +++
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25 mars 2023 à 19 h 33
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Canucks retaining for 7 years on a point per game top 6 center would be idiotic. That much retention would cost 2 first round picks +++


I disagree. He's a point per game player at 31. Signed for 8MM a year for 7 more years. When he's 35, he is a 3rd C making 1st C money. When he's 37, he is a 4th C. He has another year after that.
If Van signed him to trade him this offseason for a haul, they did a great job. If they signed him to play out his contract with them, they're fools. Van needs to rebuild. In 4 years, when they're competitive again, 2MM won't be a big deal. 8MM will be.
Trade him soon or regret it later.
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26 mars 2023 à 1 h 11
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I disagree. He's a point per game player at 31. Signed for 8MM a year for 7 more years. When he's 35, he is a 3rd C making 1st C money. When he's 37, he is a 4th C. He has another year after that.
If Van signed him to trade him this offseason for a haul, they did a great job. If they signed him to play out his contract with them, they're fools. Van needs to rebuild. In 4 years, when they're competitive again, 2MM won't be a big deal. 8MM will be.
Trade him soon or regret it later.


He just turned 30 this season. Teams pay for the first part of the contract. Not the end of it. You seriously think they are desperate enough to trade a top line forward putting up a point per game and then retaining to do so? Who will replace Miller? It’s clear the Canucks aren’t rebuilding
26 mars 2023 à 11 h 38
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He just turned 30 this season. Teams pay for the first part of the contract. Not the end of it. You seriously think they are desperate enough to trade a top line forward putting up a point per game and then retaining to do so? Who will replace Miller? It’s clear the Canucks aren’t rebuilding


I was 1 year off, my bad. Still not a great contract long term.

Van is not rebuilding? Really? Is that why they were calling around to see what they could get for Boeser and/or Miller? The answer was, not enough.

Van has:
Two goalies with very poor numbers (like it or not the jury is still out on Demko)
Terrible defense after Q
A bottom 5 farm system
Two great players under 25
Two good players over 30
A ton of 4th liners


They are an under 500 team who is playing over their heads at the moment. Maybe they don't want to rebuild. Maybe they want to 'retool'. But to say they are "clearly not rebuilding" is either disingenuous or delusional.

They can either start the rebuild now by selling Miller and OEL or they can pay them a collective (nearly) 16MM to be a 3C and 6D in 4 years.

You are correct though that teams pay for the beginning of the contract. That's why the trade above involved a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd along with a C. If someone were trading for the whole contract, VAN would be lucky to get a 2nd.
 
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