you are probably right but if he score 3-4 more scores before the end of the season they might give him a 2.5 mil two year offer that he night sign... 2.9 is his qualifiing off but he can sign a contract at a lower amount. I agree through if the number has to be above 3mil then the habs will pass

Gurianov's QO is 2.9 Mil, even a 3rd line winger who puts up about 25-30 points is worth that contract. I don't understand why you wouldn't want Gurianov at 2.9 mil when he can fill-in in the top 6 as well if needed, but to each their own. We did get Barron and a 2nd for Lehkonen, who had struggled to put up more than 31 points while with the Habs and was getting paid 2.3 Mil as a 3rd liner and in the same situation contract wise as Gurianov is now.

Yes Dach did struggle in Chicago and I wasn't saying Laf wasn't worth a 1st +. What I was saying is that I think Gurianov is being severely underrated on here, especially when you consider the Lehkonen trade. I think the value of Gurianov right now among NHL GM's (since the trade) will be around a 2nd + 3rd or 2 2nds (Lehkonen value at the time of his trade). I also think that Lafs value is slightly lower than you seem to think. I don't think anyone is giving up a top 10 pick in this draft + for him. More likely it would be an 11-20 pick + 2nd rounder in the range of 40-50, which is still better value than Dach. All this to say that Gurianov + 35th should be close in value to 11th + 40th, maybe a B prospect would need to be added to even it up but I don't think it's as bad as you let on based on recent trade history (specifically Lehkonen).

so record breaking stats are not impressive?

boy your knowledge is sn\mall as an 18 yr old he broke Brian leetch records and he is a hall of famer.... he certainly has a chance. And there are alot more 5'10" defenseman in the league than their are 5'8" so it makes a difference... Course he will play in Ncaa and gain height and weight for another season or two.... watch him at the world juniors this winter

If they don't qualify him he's a UFA tho

Are you trying to claim gurianov is worth a top 15 1st. pure delusion

we can risk losing him it is no big deal worst is to sign him to too much money.. not exactly a 200 foot player i think i like Harvey pinard and Ylonen better than him....his contract could end up like armia and we dont want to do that again... over 3 mil and you need to plat top 6 and guriounov is not top 6 is he? The right dollarsor let him walk he didnt cost us anything afterall!

Where did I say that?! I said Gurianov is worth a 2nd + 3rd or 2 2nds. I am sorry kindergarten math is too complicated for you but you shouldn't call someone delusional just because of your ineptitude.

Gurianov + 35th should be close in value to 11th + 40th

That would put gurianov, according to you, around a mid 1st. Also thinking gurianov is worth 2 seconds is just as delusional. Let me guess you also thought Dadanov was valuable?

Hutson wasn't great at the world juniors.

Gurianov was just acquired for garbage, has a 3 million dollar QO which he isn't good enough to deserve, and so he will likely become a UFA at seasons end after not being qualified. So 0 value

Gurianov has no value
He isn’t worth his QO and he isn’t a good two-way forward
He just have a good shot and speed, that’s it (ok and seize)

Kirby Dach best season was 9 ! Goals & 26 points …
Playing in CHI top 6
Alexis Lafreniere has a 19 goals 31 points seasons & he is currently at 34 points playing in NYR bottom six

Dach was worth the 13th OA pick + the 66th OA pick

Lafreniere is definitely worth more than Dach, so MTL 2023 1st OA

The offer you have with Gurianov + a 2nd is atrocious for them

Ok I can see you are too young to understand how NHL GM's work and that you are no longer worth my time or energy, so good-bye have a great life and enjoy trolling others!

I agree Gurianov's value is low right now, but he's shown enough promise to justify his qualifying offer.
He still needs to work on his engagement level on the defensive side of the puck, but he's producing decently, has had a net positive impact, and fits our style of play.
Some time to fully acclimate through summer/camp and he could be a much more effective player next season and part of a stronger unit with returns from injuries.

Worse case, he's a Hoffman equivalent 3rd line and PP2 shooter. Best case, he can complement Suzuki and Caufield, taking Dach's place on the top line and allowing him to center the 2nd line full time.
There's no reason to not qualify him. He isn't hurting our cap situation and he could be worth keeping. If he isn't, we won't be stuck with him beyond next season.

I agree Gurianov's value is low right now, but he's shown enough promise to justify his qualifying offer.
He still needs to work on his engagement level on the defensive side of the puck, but he's producing decently, has had a net positive impact, and fits our style of play.
Some time to fully acclimate through summer/camp and he could be a much more effective player next season and part of a stronger unit with returns from injuries.

Worse case, he's a Hoffman equivalent 3rd line and PP2 shooter. Best case, he can complement Suzuki and Caufield, taking Dach's place on the top line and allowing him to center the 2nd line full time.
There's no reason to not qualify him. He isn't hurting our cap situation and he could be worth keeping. If he isn't, we won't be stuck with him beyond next season.

Impressive? yes. What habs fans are making it out to be? Not even close

sure, but its not because you feel someone overvalue someone that you have to undervalue them. makes you just part of the problem.

sure, but its not because you feel someone overvalue someone that you have to undervalue them. makes you just part of the problem.

suilly he just brok all defenseman records in the ushl league history or NcAA history and we are delusional.. funy guy.... Another note teams passed on him because we has 5'8" tall but oops he is now 5'10" tall opps i guess they ****ed up most upside and a natural pp quaterback of all defenseman in montreal is not going anywhere espec wait a year and get dubois for zip

we can risk losing him it is no big deal worst is to sign him to too much money.. not exactly a 200 foot player i think i like Harvey pinard and Ylonen better than him....his contract could end up like armia and we dont want to do that again... over 3 mil and you need to plat top 6 and guriounov is not top 6 is he? The right dollarsor let him walk he didnt cost us anything afterall!

Ok I can see you are too young to understand how NHL GM's work and that you are no longer worth my time or energy, so good-bye have a great life and enjoy trolling others!

Lane Hutson is a very good prospect. However, he is simply not on the tier of guys like Jiricek, Hughes, Nemec, Edvinsson, Clarke, etc.

time will tell! i believe often people get tunnel vision because of draft position. so far hutson has done everything right to rise his stock up, but his size and defensive abilities will always be question marks until he sets foot in the nhl to show what he his made of. cant wait to see it how he turns.

time will tell! i believe often people get tunnel vision because of draft position. so far hutson has done everything right to rise his stock up, but his size and defensive abilities will always be question marks until he sets foot in the nhl to show what he his made of. cant wait to see it how he turns.

If we don’t draft top 2, if we don’t trade for Dubois, then sure. But right now, Kent Hughes & Marty St-Louis doesn’t like how he plays … they both openly said it