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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #14: Loser Point Szn

25 mars 2023 à 15 h 49
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Can't believe the Leafs traded for McCann just so Seattle would take him instead of Justin Holl


Something something glass houses



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25 mars 2023 à 15 h 52
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Can't believe the Leafs traded for McCann just so Seattle would take him instead of Justin Holl


We could not afford his next contract. As think he got 5mill on SEA top line. In TOR with AM and MM 6.5+mill was not out of the question. But hey Holl since we reduced his role's been fine. Good Pker, isnt afraid to lay the body out, and once helped shut out McDavid and the Oilers twice. Got a feeling once he leaves in FA someone gonna pay him big as if Gudbranson got 4mill Holl's probs gonna get 5mill+. As RD like him always seem to get a lot of $$$$$
25 mars 2023 à 15 h 57
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Jim Benning. I'm not quite sure what you expect. Canucks actually had a decent 2014 draft with McCann, Demko, and Forsling. Too bad Jimbo shipped McCann and Forsling off before they could actually develop. Also blows my mind that Gudbranson was a top 3 pick. I mean imagine a guy like Simon Nemec becomes Gudbranson
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 3
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Dcore and goaltending are the only thing really holding them back from being really scary.

To me maybe they should explore a trade down the road and a buyout then they could rule the pacific.

If I was Francis I would look at adding a true #1 D via trade to their Dcore and then buying out Grubauer.


Dunn is a true #1 D. 58 pts in 71 games, great two way play. They should be adding to the Dcore but they just need a 2nd pair D. They should target someone like Brannstrom, younger D with breakout potential.

The goaltending does suck, they need to figure that out
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 12
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Modifié 25 mars 2023 à 16 h 22
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Dunn is a true #1 D. 58 pts in 71 games, great two way play. They should be adding to the Dcore but they just need a 2nd pair D. They should target someone like Brannstrom, younger D with breakout potential.

The goaltending does suck, they need to figure that out


I feel Dunn would be better overall in a 2nd pair role with them. They need a true #1 D. As I feel this is one of those everything is going right for Dunn this season rn

To me this is the Dcore and what they need

?-Larsson
Dunn-Borgen
Oleksiak-Shultz
Megna

To bad their arent many good #1 D available this FA or in a trade. Lots of 2nd pair guys but not that true minute eater 2-way monster. Last years Sanheim would be interesting but he fell off and now I just dont see it

Still a blockbuster with him and Hart going to SEA would be very interesting

Sanheim-Larsson
Dunn-Borgen
Oleksiak-Shultz

Hart
Dreidger
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 25
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I feel Dunn would be better overall in a 2nd pair role with them. They need a true #1 D. As I feel this is one of those everything is going right for Dunn this season rn

To me this is the Dcore and what they need

?-Larsson
Dunn-Borgen
Oleksiak-Shultz
Megna

To bad their arent many good #1 D available this FA or in a trade. Lots of 2nd pair guys but not that true minute eater 2-way monster. Last years Sanheim would be interesting but he fell off and now I just dont see it

Still a blockbuster with him and Hart going to SEA would be very interesting


What more does Dunn have to do to prove he’s a #1 D? Plays 24 min a game, is 2nd to Erik karlsson in even strength points , shuts down other teams top players. Isn’t that what a true #1 D does? His team is one of the best in the league this season mainly because of his play on D
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 36
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What more does Dunn have to do to prove he’s a #1 D? Plays 24 min a game, is 2nd to Erik karlsson in even strength points , shuts down other teams top players. Isn’t that what a true #1 D does? His team is one of the best in the league this season mainly because of his play on D


He needs to show he can do it for more than 1 season. He has always been a good player, but it is only this season that he has broken out into a top pair guy.
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25 mars 2023 à 16 h 38
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What is going on with Jack Hughes? His production has dried up a bit in the last while and his defense went from very good to replacement level
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 48
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What more does Dunn have to do to prove he’s a #1 D? Plays 24 min a game, is 2nd to Erik karlsson in even strength points , shuts down other teams top players. Isn’t that what a true #1 D does? His team is one of the best in the league this season mainly because of his play on D


He's gotta show he can do it again, but this season he has been mighty impressive.

I feel the same way about Morrissey. Though I'm more confident in Dunn
25 mars 2023 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
He's gotta show he can do it again, but this season he has been mighty impressive.

I feel the same way about Morrissey. Though I'm more confident in Dunn



Quoting: Juiceman
He needs to show he can do it for more than 1 season. He has always been a good player, but it is only this season that he has broken out into a top pair guy.


Yep as contract years often bring out the best of guys

And funny enough look at Morrisey the year after he signed the contract and now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6YtOfSWUAEwY4T?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkhBDN_XkAEkrsi?format=jpg&name=900x900
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 1
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He needs to show he can do it for more than 1 season. He has always been a good player, but it is only this season that he has broken out into a top pair guy.


Dunn has put up top pair caliber numbers 3 times
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 5
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He's gotta show he can do it again, but this season he has been mighty impressive.

I feel the same way about Morrissey. Though I'm more confident in Dunn


I agree , a lot of the things he's doing is sustainable. He driving play, he's always been a good shooter. His defensive play has consistently been strong throughout his career.
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 42
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Kuzy has asked for a trade. Who wants him
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 47
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Kuzy has asked for a trade. Who wants him


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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 50
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I know your joking but if I were bmac I wouldn’t trade him indivison. When he gives a sh*t he is insane. Explains a lot of how he has played this year
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 51
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Kuzy has asked for a trade. Who wants him

30yrs old, be 31y in a bit over a month...
Call him a "20G-a-season kind of guy on avg" (x-fingers)
US$7.8MIL CAP and two seasons left in contract!!

Without retention, not too many clubs and esp. w/ the CAP looking to be flat to nominally increased next yr...
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 51
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Horvat has 0 goals in his last 10 games.
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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 51
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Kuzy has asked for a trade. Who wants him


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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 52
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30yrs old, be 31y in a bit over a month...
Call him a "20G-a-season kind of guy on avg" (x-fingers)
US$7.8MIL CAP and two seasons left in contract!!

Without retention, not too many clubs and esp. w/ the CAP looking to be flat to nominally increased next yr...


Might go up 4 mil next year. He has the intangibles. Needs a change
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 52
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To flip him maybe? Aren’t they rebuilding or are they retooling? They do need a center
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 55
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Horvat has 0 goals in his last 10 games.


Honestly a shame. Kinda wish he was traded to an offensive minded team. Did Lou seriously think he would thrive on the offensive blackhole of Long Island?
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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 56
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Honestly a shame. Kinda wish he was traded to an offensive minded team. Did Lou seriously think he would thrive on the offensive blackhole of Long Island?

Canes should have made a jump at him imo. They play an excellent two way game. He would have thrived there
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Kuzy has asked for a trade. Who wants him


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25 mars 2023 à 18 h 57
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Risto for Kuzy.
25 mars 2023 à 18 h 58
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I’ll be one of the first caps fans to say this. Lavi isn’t always the problem.
 
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