DRAFT REINBACHER AND HONZEK 64M DEAL FOR CAUFIELD NEDELJKOVIC ON A 1YR PROVE IT

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Créé par: nilees24

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 24 mars 2023

Publié: 24 mars 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

*SALARY CAP AT 83.5 MILLION
**CAREY PRICE ON LTIR FOR ALL OF 2023/24 SEASON
***TEAM UNLIKELY TO MAKE 2023/24 PLAYOFFS

Draft Results at 2023 NHL Draft (1st 2 rounds):
*5th overall pick - Draft David Reinbacher
*9th overall pick - MTL trades up and acquire 1.09 pick from STL plus 4th Rd pick (2024) for the 1.17 pick (from FLA) plus 2.05 pick
*9th overall pick (from STL) - Draft Samuel Honzek

UFA Departures (2023 Off-Season):
Sean Monahan
Jonathan Drouin
Paul Byron
Anthony Richard
Corey Schueneman
Madison Bowey
Otto Leskinen
Frédéric Allard

Reserve List Departures (2023 Off-Season):
Jack Gorniak
Tony Sund
Frederik Nissen Dichow
Joe Vrbetic

Trade candidates at 2023/24 Trade Deadline:
Joel Edmundson - final year of contract (acquire 1st Rd pick)
Mike Hoffman - final year of contract (acquire 3rd Rd pick)
Chris Wideman - final year of contract (acquire 5th Rd pick)
Alex Nedeljkovic - final year of contract (acquire 6th Rd pick)
Samuel Montembeault - final year of contract (acquire 6th Rd pick)
Rem Pitlick - final year of contract (acquire 7th Rd pick)
Chris Tierney - final year of contract (acquire 7th Rd pick)

Reserve List signings at end of 2023/24 Season or during 2024 Off-Season:
Jakub Dobes - 2 yr / 875k per year
Cedrick Guindon - 3 yr / 825k per year
Luke Tuch - 3 yr / 825k per year
Miguël Tourigny - 3 yr / 825k per year

Trade candidates during 2024 Off-Season:
*Carey Price's contract to ARIZ - at 2 years remaining
**Pierre-Luc Dubois acquired from WPG for Josh Anderson, Sean Farrell, Ty Smilanic, 2025 1st Rd Pick (CGY)

Team roster at start of 2024/25 season:
Caufield - Suzuki 'C' - Dach
Slafkovsky - Dubois - Gurianov
Harvey-Pinard - Dvorak - Gallagher 'A'
Armia - Evans - Ylönen
(Simoneau) (Roy)

Matheson 'A' - Guhle
Harris - Barron
Xhekaj - Savard
(Struble) (Kovacevic)

Lankinen (*FA signs at 3 yr / 13.5 mill) - Allen
(Primeau)

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Kapanen, Oliver		2	850 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole	8	8 000 000 $
Gurianov, Denis	2	3 000 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	1	850 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	1	850 000 $
Pezzetta, Michael	1	850 000 $
Teasdale, Joël	1	775 000 $
Condotta, Lucas	1	775 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell	1	775 000 $
Beaudin, Nicolas	1	775 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Nedeljkovic, Alex	1	1 500 000 $
Tierney, Chris	1	775 000 $
Belzile, Alex	1	775 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Reinbacher, David		3	975 000 $
Honzek, Samuel		3	975 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (STL)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (STL)

STL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

MTL trades up from 1.17 to 1.09 in 2023 Draft

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	83 500 000 $	72 261 666 $	1 170 000 $	3 920 000 $	11 238 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gurianov, Denis 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Tierney, Chris 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 27

Caufield

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That would be some pretty awful picks

Just_A_Guess et Campabee a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 32

Lancebmx

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The Blues aren't making that trade. #17-#9 probably cost more than a second let alone getting a 4th back

OldNYIfan, xercuses et mokumboi a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 38

OldNYIfan

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I can see St. Louis trading one of their later firsts for the #37 pick plus additional benefit(s), but not trading out of #9 and giving up a chance to get a high-quality prospect like a top-10 selection. I think that's just unrealistic.

Picking Reinbacher at #5 when you could select Zach Benson (appears to be Habs fans' preference) or Will Smith (my preference there) is a reach, and Honzek before #20 is a LONG reach, as @Caufield suggests.

Campabee, Caufield et xercuses a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 40

Aaron_Dell_Pickle

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Habs fan everywhere are rejoicing that you arent their GM

Campabee et Caufield a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 43

Campabee

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Not all Habs fans lol, I don't know why this guy has such a hard on for Honzek but he keeps trying to trade up then selecting him! Like just forget about Honzek already there are 13 better center's in this draft, Select Smith then the BPA with the 17th pick (if its ASP, Reinbacher or Dragicevic great if not oh well)

OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 50

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Campabee

My ideal two selections for you guys.

Campabee a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 14 h 50

xercuses

Xercuses

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Why do these habs fans keep thinking this is a fair trade
You mongoose, you are dumber then season 8 Jon Snow

24 mars 2023 à 15 h 49

Campabee

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Quoting: xercuses

Why do these habs fans keep thinking this is a fair trade
You mongoose, you are dumber then season 8 Jon Snow

TBF EvolvingHockey ranks the 9th pick at 372.16, pick 17 at 260.15 and pick 35 at 116.07, since 260.15+116.07 = 376.22 which is > 372.126. So basically the only reason for them not to make the trade is the 4th round pick going back (strictly on a pick value basis)

xercuses a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 15 h 50

xercuses

Xercuses

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Quoting: Campabee

I mean I guess, but I think the blues would really want a high end guy in the pipeline instead

Also I really wanted to use those 2 insults

Campabee a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 15 h 57

#10

Campabee

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Quoting: xercuses

I mean I guess, but I think the blues would really want a high end guy in the pipeline instead

Also I really wanted to use those 2 insults

That's fair and I get wanting more especially given the depth of this draft class, like I said I was just commenting on pick value alone.

xercuses a aimé ceci.

24 mars 2023 à 16 h 21

#11

danielcoe

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love the effort ... but no .. Habs needs are not Rd but rather top line forwards ... the defense is fine right now with the prospects we have.... I really like our def..... so i see the habs taking two fd in the first round at 5 and 15... There is c\a chance that the russian might be there at five and i cvould take him... if you think ana might take him trade up one pick and give up a third and them pick him.... anahiem will want someone who can help sooner so i think they would be open to this.. Then at 15 you take another forward with high end potential... If they are none you can take a RD or a goalie..

24 mars 2023 à 16 h 28

#12

danielcoe

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Also next year is the year of the rookie forward on the habs and you have to make space so hoffman is gone with retained salary for whatever and armia is sent to the minors.. And you try Ylonen, Harvey, Roy and farrell or kidney at out forward,,,, maybe even Beck or Mesar.. Whoever doesn't make it goes to laval.....so probably 3 in montreal and 3 in laval... but you need slots to play them... not even sure you want to block these guys with Gurionov.... He is inconsistent and needs an armia like contract.... I dont think he is better than Roy or Fareell and Pitlick and Pezzetta are much cheaper options for the fourth line

24 mars 2023 à 17 h 12

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mokumboi

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For the 74th time, THE BLUES ARE NOT DOING THAT.

I tried caps, because maybe that's the only thing he understands.

Quoting: Campabee

That is not how it works in reality. Setting aside that these analytic values are not gospel and that all team needs are different, one can't simply pile nickels and dimes to the moon and go, "Well, here's your payment for the top overall pick!"

Besides, that whole value comp thing is for a typical draft year, not for this draft. The reason the Blues are not doing this is they have not had a lottery pick in 15 years, and if there's ever a year to suck and get one, it's this year.

24 mars 2023 à 17 h 16

#14

Campabee

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Quoting: mokumboi

For the 74th time, THE BLUES ARE NOT DOING THAT.

I tried caps, because maybe that's the only thing he understands.

That is not how it works in reality. Setting aside that these analytic values are not gospel and that all team needs are different, one can't simply pile nickels and dimes to the moon and go, "Well, here's your payment for the top overall pick!"

Besides, that whole value comp thing is for a typical draft year, not for this draft. The reason the Blues are not doing this is they have not had a lottery pick in 15 years, and if there's ever a year to suck and get one, it's this year.

Please read and understand my comment, I literally said "strictly based on pick value", I never said the blues should/would do it. I even made a comment further down regarding the draft class being much stronger as seen below.

Quoting: Campabee

That's fair and I get wanting more especially given the depth of this draft class, like I said I was just commenting on pick value alone.

I also never created this thread

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