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Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 17 mars 2023
Publié: 17 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Tuomisto, Antti [Liste de réserve]
  2. Veleno, Joseph
  3. Viro, Eemil
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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17 mars 2023 à 2 h 28
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Wouldn't trade either one one of Ras or Lindholm for that package, let alone both. Brutal offer
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17 mars 2023 à 2 h 36
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Anderson only 26 ..rhd ..fills big need.. lindholm depends so I’d demand one pick be conditional in 2024 and it’s based on an extension signed for Elias in Detroit..then done deal ..
17 mars 2023 à 7 h 39
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Calgary isn't doing that
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17 mars 2023 à 9 h 8
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Lindholm gonna be too expensive than what it's worth.
17 mars 2023 à 9 h 52
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Wouldn't trade either one one of Ras or Lindholm for that package, let alone both. Brutal offer


You also soapboxed all last year that Monahan had positive value and wasn't a dump...

This is probably fair for Lindholm alone, but not with Andersson included. Can take Tuo out because he has no value.
17 mars 2023 à 10 h 7
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Of course I would say yes to this trade but not a chance it would ever happen.
17 mars 2023 à 10 h 17
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Quoting: dtd_tank
You also soapboxed all last year that Monahan had positive value and wasn't a dump...

This is probably fair for Lindholm alone, but not with Andersson included. Can take Tuo out because he has no value.


Do you think healthy Paccioretty has value? He clearly got dumped. Vegas set the market on Monahan and similar. How exactly do you think this is fair for Lindholm. Velano and Viro have next to zero value too
17 mars 2023 à 10 h 54
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Do you think healthy Paccioretty has value? He clearly got dumped. Vegas set the market on Monahan and similar. How exactly do you think this is fair for Lindholm. Velano and Viro have next to zero value too


Your opinion far predated the Pacioretty trade, and was quite different than what happened.

Veleno and Viro don't have a vast amount of value here, agreed. But Lindholm isn't worth more than any other trade in NHL history. The trade value here is less than Meier which I think is likely considering age, RFA vs UFA, and performance. Lindholm plays C vs W, which would offset the latter. I don't think the valuation here is too awful.
17 mars 2023 à 12 h 13
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Your opinion far predated the Pacioretty trade, and was quite different than what happened.

Veleno and Viro don't have a vast amount of value here, agreed. But Lindholm isn't worth more than any other trade in NHL history. The trade value here is less than Meier which I think is likely considering age, RFA vs UFA, and performance. Lindholm plays C vs W, which would offset the latter. I don't think the valuation here is too awful.


That's my point. My opinion was before Vegas was dumb enough to pay to move Patches. How is that confusing. I never once argued Monahan's trade value after that trade since Vegas set the market for moving cap. However I do still think paying to move Monahan to acquire a 32 year old Kadri was poor asset management.

Lindholm is worth more than Horvat, especially if he's traded in the offseason. The above trade is even moving the same 1st. This offer simply doesn't come close to the Horvat return.
19 mars 2023 à 9 h 53
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Calgary doesn't do that deal.
 
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