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Laf offersheet

Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 16 mars 2023
Publié: 16 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
16 300 000 $
87 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
33 250 000 $
33 250 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Lafrenière, Alexis6 300 000 $
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  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Drury, Jack
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  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
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  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $80 741 917 $450 000 $500 000 $2 758 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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16 mars 2023 à 6 h 43
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why so much for Lafrenière and only one year?
16 mars 2023 à 6 h 46
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Quoting: capt_dude
why so much for Lafrenière and only one year?


He's not worth that much, and the one year means it doesn't eat up a chunk of the cap for as long. It follows the blueprint the Canes used to land Kotkaniemi. 6.1 for 1 year and then 4.82 for 8 years after that, this would do that, but on a player with more offensive upside taking advantage of New York's cap issues because they just would not be able to match it
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16 mars 2023 à 6 h 57
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Offer sheets only go through when they're for way more than the other club can afford, or is willing to risk being stuck with, because the contract has driven into untradable territory. Otherwise, all they accomplish is bad blood between GMs, soured relationships with a player and the club, tied up assets while the process plays out and then if they actually go through - the prize is giving up a boat load of picks for an overpaid player.

I will never understand the fascination with offer sheets.
16 mars 2023 à 7 h 14
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Offer sheets only go through when they're for way more than the other club can afford, or is willing to risk being stuck with, because the contract has driven into untradable territory. Otherwise, all they accomplish is bad blood between GMs, soured relationships with a player and the club, tied up assets while the process plays out and then if they actually go through - the prize is giving up a boat load of picks for an overpaid player.

I will never understand the fascination with offer sheets.


Because if done properly it works. KK has been a great asset to the canes and is clearly the staal replacement in a year or 2. We had the cap space to offer the initial 6.1 mil so why not. we tried trading for kk straight up and the habs wanted Jarvis for him. So instead we got KK at a discount and utilized the cap space we had to steal a player for only a 1st and 3rd which is much less than Jarvis.
16 mars 2023 à 7 h 18
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Offer sheets only go through when they're for way more than the other club can afford, or is willing to risk being stuck with, because the contract has driven into untradable territory. Otherwise, all they accomplish is bad blood between GMs, soured relationships with a player and the club, tied up assets while the process plays out and then if they actually go through - the prize is giving up a boat load of picks for an overpaid player.

I will never understand the fascination with offer sheets.


That's why the player you do it with needs to be a good target. For Carolina, Kotkaniemi was a great pick up because he's been an ideal Trocheck replacement. I love KK and even I was shocked at how productive he's been with his counting stats this year. Lafreniere is a former 1st overall pick with immense talent. If they can get him producing, that may be the scoring winger they have been missing. Anyone that is already proven at the NHL level is going to straight up be matched. 21 years old, struggling in New York, getting scratched, relations may have already soured.
16 mars 2023 à 7 h 25
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Offer sheets only go through when they're for way more than the other club can afford, or is willing to risk being stuck with, because the contract has driven into untradable territory. Otherwise, all they accomplish is bad blood between GMs, soured relationships with a player and the club, tied up assets while the process plays out and then if they actually go through - the prize is giving up a boat load of picks for an overpaid player.

I will never understand the fascination with offer sheets.


If NHL GMs werent such babies, offer sheets would be a fantastic tool.
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16 mars 2023 à 8 h 7
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If NHL GMs werent such babies, offer sheets would be a fantastic tool.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts......

This is reality and it's a great way for a GM to get blackballed and it RARELY works out, it's just a dick wagging display
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 14
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts......

This is reality and it's a great way for a GM to get blackballed and it RARELY works out, it's just a dick wagging display


Doesn't have to be that way and it is embarrassing that it is. The NHL (not the sport of hockey) is such an embarrassing league and this is one reason why.
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 16
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Doesn't have to be that way and it is embarrassing that it is. The NHL (not the sport of hockey) is such an embarrassing league and this is one reason why.

I don't disagree with you there, the pettiness and old boys club mentality is pretty tired...
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 51
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
I don't disagree with you there, the pettiness and old boys club mentality is pretty tired...


Come on, how else are guys like Chairot gonna make a living
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: planter5
Because if done properly it works. KK has been a great asset to the canes and is clearly the staal replacement in a year or 2. We had the cap space to offer the initial 6.1 mil so why not. we tried trading for kk straight up and the habs wanted Jarvis for him. So instead we got KK at a discount and utilized the cap space we had to steal a player for only a 1st and 3rd which is much less than Jarvis.


Quoting: Caniac2000
That's why the player you do it with needs to be a good target. For Carolina, Kotkaniemi was a great pick up because he's been an ideal Trocheck replacement. I love KK and even I was shocked at how productive he's been with his counting stats this year. Lafreniere is a former 1st overall pick with immense talent. If they can get him producing, that may be the scoring winger they have been missing. Anyone that is already proven at the NHL level is going to straight up be matched. 21 years old, struggling in New York, getting scratched, relations may have already soured.

That was retaliatory for Aho and I highly doubt it would have happened without Montreal firing the first shot. It hasn't been bad all things considered, but at the end of the day, Carolina still gave up a 1st and a 3rd for a guy that has never scored 40 points in this league and KK is easily the best result of an offer sheet in the last 25 years... Dustin Penner...
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 52
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Laf to s a prime candidate for an offer sheet of the KK type, whether Carolina does it though is another topic since it would sour another relationship in the league and I don't think they need that type of attention again.
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 52
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I thought Hurricanes would have learned their lesson.
16 mars 2023 à 8 h 54
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
I thought Hurricanes would have learned their lesson.


that it works, yes they did
16 mars 2023 à 9 h 12
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Quoting: ecupirate07
that it works, yes they did


The days of ridiculously bad offer sheets are gone since the length of contracts has been brought under control.
16 mars 2023 à 9 h 56
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I think that it takes more than 1/$6.25M to snag Lafreniere, especially considering that our 1st is extremely late and because I think that GMs learned their lesson from the KK saga. I think that my prior proposal of 1x$8.4M would do it because they would have to trade Kreider or Panarin for them to match it. The Canes could then get Laf to agree to an 8 year contract around $7M/year.
16 mars 2023 à 10 h 5
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I think that it takes more than 1/$6.25M to snag Lafreniere, especially considering that our 1st is extremely late and because I think that GMs learned their lesson from the KK saga. I think that my prior proposal of 1x$8.4M would do it because they would have to trade Kreider or Panarin for them to match it. The Canes could then get Laf to agree to an 8 year contract around $7M/year.


a 6.25 million offer sheet would leave 10 million for the Rangers to get their other 2 RFAs and then 6 roster spots. That should be more than plenty.
16 mars 2023 à 10 h 54
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a 6.25 million offer sheet would leave 10 million for the Rangers to get their other 2 RFAs and then 6 roster spots. That should be more than plenty.


The thing is that a $6.25M offer sheet could theoretically be matched by cap dumping someone like Goodrow. Making the offer sheet in the $8M range forces them to legitimately consider letting him go.
16 mars 2023 à 11 h 34
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If you’re going to stir it up offer sheet Caufield @ 10 mil
16 mars 2023 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: Fergy22
If you’re going to stir it up offer sheet Caufield 10 mil


No reason. Habs can match and not worry. Lafreniere gives you a real chance of landing the player
 
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