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Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2023
Publié: 7 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
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11 500 000 $
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WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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WPG
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
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WPG
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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WPG
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Stanley, Logan [Droits de RFA]
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WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
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7 mars 2023 à 10 h 54
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Ya no the habs arent paying that
7 mars 2023 à 10 h 58
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Switch it to the 2024 1st (top 5 protected) and upgrade the 4th to a 3rd and you have a deal. Montreal needs that Florida pick for Reinbacher or Sandin-Pellikka
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7 mars 2023 à 11 h 26
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None of the trades do anything for the Jets. They would look at other options.
7 mars 2023 à 11 h 42
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-If you put PLD on the market, this offer easily gets beaten by half a dozen teams. I would assume the value starts at the Bo Horvat package (1st + strong prospect + useful-if-slightly-overpaid roster player) - so Dvorak/'23'1st/Owen Beck maybe? With something else thrown in to make up for the fact that PLD is 3 years younger and has more team control the pending UFA Horvat had.

-I would not be surprised if Anaheim is on Schmidt's 10-team list; beyond that, I don't see anyone trading for 2x$5.95M of that deal when he's seen such a drop in production. Best bet would be swapping him out for another poorly aging contract, if you don't want to buy him out.

-Value is probably about right for Appleton - he's paid a little more than you want to pay a bottom-6 guy, but he's fine for what he is. Not sure if the Oilers are the destination, but not out of the question either.

-Why would New Jersey give up any sort of pick, much less a 3rd rounder, for a 6th/7th D that is a 50/50 shot to get tendered a contract this summer? There are plenty of guys available for just the cost of a contract in free agency that can do what Stanley has done this year (1 assist in 14 GP, averaging 13;23 per night.)

-Terrible trade for Winnipeg, IMO. If you're moving Heinola, you should be getting NHL-caliber players back - especially when you're dealing with the Kings, a team that has more forward prospects in their pipeline than available spots on their NHL roster. You could work out a deal targeting Alex Turcotte, or Sam Helenius, or Alex Laferriere, or The Other Jack Hughes instead of just taking back what is probably a mid-late 2nd rounder at best.
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7 mars 2023 à 11 h 44
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I am 100% confident we will not trade for Dubois. We do not have a single reason to do so.
7 mars 2023 à 12 h 23
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-If you put PLD on the market, this offer easily gets beaten by half a dozen teams. I would assume the value starts at the Bo Horvat package (1st + strong prospect + useful-if-slightly-overpaid roster player) - so Dvorak/'23'1st/Owen Beck maybe? With something else thrown in to make up for the fact that PLD is 3 years younger and has more team control the pending UFA Horvat had.

-I would not be surprised if Anaheim is on Schmidt's 10-team list; beyond that, I don't see anyone trading for 2x$5.95M of that deal when he's seen such a drop in production. Best bet would be swapping him out for another poorly aging contract, if you don't want to buy him out.

-Value is probably about right for Appleton - he's paid a little more than you want to pay a bottom-6 guy, but he's fine for what he is. Not sure if the Oilers are the destination, but not out of the question either.

-Why would New Jersey give up any sort of pick, much less a 3rd rounder, for a 6th/7th D that is a 50/50 shot to get tendered a contract this summer? There are plenty of guys available for just the cost of a contract in free agency that can do what Stanley has done this year (1 assist in 14 GP, averaging 13;23 per night.)

-Terrible trade for Winnipeg, IMO. If you're moving Heinola, you should be getting NHL-caliber players back - especially when you're dealing with the Kings, a team that has more forward prospects in their pipeline than available spots on their NHL roster. You could work out a deal targeting Alex Turcotte, or Sam Helenius, or Alex Laferriere, or The Other Jack Hughes instead of just taking back what is probably a mid-late 2nd rounder at best.


PLD would be a pending UFA as well so team control arguement goes out the window. Horvat package is about all the Jets get, and Habs should wait until after the 202e draft to make the trade meaning its the 2024 1st instead and they also likely want top 5 protection on it.
7 mars 2023 à 13 h 35
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PLD would be a pending UFA as well so team control arguement goes out the window. Horvat package is about all the Jets get, and Habs should wait until after the 202e draft to make the trade meaning its the 2024 1st instead and they also likely want top 5 protection on it.


Ah, forgot to shift my brain a season ahead on the team control part.

I'd still argue that Raty/likely '23 1st rounder/Beauvillier is still a stronger package than Dvorak/'24 1st/Kovacevic & a 4th (especially considering the Habs got Kovacevic from the Jets waiving him in the first place!)

I agree that top-5 protection on the '24 pick would be fine, and I don't hate Dvorak as the roster player going back in the deal for the Jets (it's honestly either him or Hoffman IMO), but Kovacevic+4th has to be upgraded to an actual prospect. We can argue whether or not it would make sense for Montreal to pay that package, but I think at some point other teams will be sniffing around, and even if they're only getting one full season of Dubois they'll pay a strong price for him.
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7 mars 2023 à 13 h 56
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Ah, forgot to shift my brain a season ahead on the team control part.

I'd still argue that Raty/likely '23 1st rounder/Beauvillier is still a stronger package than Dvorak/'24 1st/Kovacevic & a 4th (especially considering the Habs got Kovacevic from the Jets waiving him in the first place!)

I agree that top-5 protection on the '24 pick would be fine, and I don't hate Dvorak as the roster player going back in the deal for the Jets (it's honestly either him or Hoffman IMO), but Kovacevic+4th has to be upgraded to an actual prospect. We can argue whether or not it would make sense for Montreal to pay that package, but I think at some point other teams will be sniffing around, and even if they're only getting one full season of Dubois they'll pay a strong price for him.


Absolutely agree the prospect has to be better, gotta figure one of Beck, Kidney, Barron or Mailloux would be the prospect attached.
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8 mars 2023 à 15 h 18
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Quoting: Campabee
Switch it to the 2024 1st (top 5 protected) and upgrade the 4th to a 3rd and you have a deal. Montreal needs that Florida pick for Reinbacher or Sandin-Pellikka


You want the Habs to draft a 26th ranked RHD who isnt even ppg in the SWISS league with probably the 12 overall pick. And no way the Jets take a 2024 pick. Its gonna cost a 2023 1st. And dont give me, well we w9ill get him for free. Yeah we might but its more 10+ million aav and only a 7 year deal.
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You want the Habs to draft a 26th ranked RHD who isnt even ppg in the SWISS league with probably the 12 overall pick. And no way the Jets take a 2024 pick. Its gonna cost a 2023 1st. And dont give me, well we w9ill get him for free. Yeah we might but its more 10+ million aav and only a 7 year deal.


Not sure who is the 26th ranked RHD you are referring to but Reinbacher is ranked 7th OVA in this draft as of the 7th by Pronman and ASP is ranked 18th but most mock drafts have both going between 10th and 20th. So if you are referring to one of those 2 guys then yes I want the Habs to select them, my preference is Reinbacher though
9 mars 2023 à 9 h 17
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Not sure who is the 26th ranked RHD you are referring to but Reinbacher is ranked 7th OVA in this draft as of the 7th by Pronman and ASP is ranked 18th but most mock drafts have both going between 10th and 20th. So if you are referring to one of those 2 guys then yes I want the Habs to select them, my preference is Reinbacher though


Pronman is a moron. Dude just likes to be different so people will buy the Athletic to read his garbage. Reinbacher is a low 1st round pick. Hes playing like average in Swiss League. Habs dont need average d men. Barron and Mailloux are at worst on par with Reinbacher but most likely above him.

You drat best player available. And at 5-7 range, one of Benson, Michkov, Cristall or Smith will be available. And at 12-14 range, Leonard, Gulyayev, or Moore will be available.
9 mars 2023 à 12 h 13
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Pronman is a moron. Dude just likes to be different so people will buy the Athletic to read his garbage. Reinbacher is a low 1st round pick. Hes playing like average in Swiss League. Habs dont need average d men. Barron and Mailloux are at worst on par with Reinbacher but most likely above him.

You drat best player available. And at 5-7 range, one of Benson, Michkov, Cristall or Smith will be available. And at 12-14 range, Leonard, Gulyayev, or Moore will be available.


Pronman isn't the only one predicting Reibacher to go in the 10-20 range. Constantino of Sportsnet has him at 11th OVA, Ellis of Daily Faceoff has him at 16th, only Button anMcKeen have him ranked outside the top 20.
9 mars 2023 à 12 h 28
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Pronman is a moron. Dude just likes to be different so people will buy the Athletic to read his garbage. Reinbacher is a low 1st round pick. Hes playing like average in Swiss League. Habs dont need average d men. Barron and Mailloux are at worst on par with Reinbacher but most likely above him.

You drat best player available. And at 5-7 range, one of Benson, Michkov, Cristall or Smith will be available. And at 12-14 range, Leonard, Gulyayev, or Moore will be available.


Quoting: Campabee
Pronman isn't the only one predicting Reibacher to go in the 10-20 range. Constantino of Sportsnet has him at 11th OVA, Ellis of Daily Faceoff has him at 16th, only Button anMcKeen have him ranked outside the top 20.


What about Dragicevic?

"Aggressive offensive blueliner with great mobility and a heavy shot. Needs to continue to develop defensively but possesses top-four potential at the NHL level."

Mobility and a shooting threat we can use. Similar profile to Mailloux really, but without the baggage.
Defensive work can be improved if you have mobility, and aggressiveness can be toned down.

I'm attached to the idea of trading down and using our later pick (FLA assuming no lottery win), to pick up both Dragicevic and Hrabal. Two birds with one stone, RHD and G which are both needs.
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13 mars 2023 à 8 h 57
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What about Dragicevic?

"Aggressive offensive blueliner with great mobility and a heavy shot. Needs to continue to develop defensively but possesses top-four potential at the NHL level."

Mobility and a shooting threat we can use. Similar profile to Mailloux really, but without the baggage.
Defensive work can be improved if you have mobility, and aggressiveness can be toned down.

I'm attached to the idea of trading down and using our later pick (FLA assuming no lottery win), to pick up both Dragicevic and Hrabal. Two birds with one stone, RHD and G which are both needs.



Which is why like you i favor a deal with STL to get our RD later and Harabal
But i want Bonk who's a perfect Josh Gorges style shot blocking D who is solid 200ft making his money covering Offensive Dmen's turnovers.
We have 2 Power Play RD with size right now , isnt short but he's build for Speed and Conditioning with a more light and lean physique .

Then again why not both, we have an early 2nd round pick too
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