RIP Husso when Chiarot/Karlsson are on the ice together...

I think it's a solid package though, and would be fun to see him back in the Atlantic.

The idea is fine, but does not fit into what Yzerman has done to this point. He has preached patience and flexibility. Husso would be better off not having Charoit and Kalrsson in defensive zone, good offensively, bad defensively.

No need for LW, as we have several options. Need RH center, wingers and defenseman.

That would be a terrible move for Detroit. I don't mind trading a good LHD prospect and the Isles 1st for a legit RHD with term, but not one on the wrong side of 30 with a RIDICULOUS cap hit. Karlsson is a "win-now" acquisition, not a "take the next step" acquisition.

If we were going to give up piles of assets it would have been for Meier or Horvat not for karlsson. No one is going to pay a price like that for karlsson. Sj would sell him for nothing if it got that contract off the books.

I bet we could get Karlsson with no retention without the firsts and Wallinder. I know Grier said he wanted 3 firsts of value but I think that was with retention. It wouldn't be worth giving up those three very valuable assets.

This is one of the grossest overpays I've ever seen on this site.

He’s one of the best offensive defenceman in league history and he’s playing his best hockey now. If anything the contract is what keeps the return from being higher for SJ.

Then they won’t trade him. If the Habs had a player of his value I wouldn’t give him away.

I don’t see why San Jose would move a likely 100 point defenseman when they aren’t getting those quality assets back…it is an overpay. Maybe take out the 2023 1st and one of Zadina/Veleno. I know San Jose gets out of the full contract in this scenario but there’s no incentive to do it without quality assets coming back.

The habs aren't a budget team. Sharks I don't think are a very well off team and I'm sure would like to move out the money.

Saving $39,000,000 would be quite the incentive.

lol he's one of the most overrated defenceman in league history, I think is what you mean. Wouldn't give up half of this for him.

And in their current situation, it makes absolutely no sense for the Wings to give up that many quality assets for a 30+ year old DMan that has no idea how to play defense.

To get significantly worse when they are trying to turn it around quickly? And give up a 100 point defenseman for two busts and an overpaid winger? I don’t see it even without retention. People act like paying good players is a bad thing. Only reason the Karlsson contract looks bad now is how little the cap has gone up, otherwise it’s totally fine when he’s this good.

I honestly think this more than gets it done without retention, if Detroit were to go down that road. Keeping the retention slot open for 4 years, plus the money saved, would be equal to a 1st; add on the fact that you've thrown in a pair of 1sts and I'd argue you can call it a day there - throwing in Wallinder and Veleno is overkill.

If I was Yzerman, and I thought Karlsson was a worthy swing to take, I'd package something like Wallinder, the '24 1st from Boston, a roster player like Gustav Lindstrom, and Fabbri's 2x$4M deal for Karlsson with no retention. I've got the cap room this year and next, and the hope is that the cap will jump up enough in 2 years that Karlsson's last 2 years aren't particularly onerous.

It's a very interesting swing to take - I don't think it fits the Yzerplan, for whatever that's worth, but I also feel like if you can get a potential Norris winner without giving up any of your premier assets, it's worth thinking about.

Sharks say yes 100%, almost certainly still say yes without the 2024 first and one of the players.

Was Paul Coffey overrated? Because that’s the closest comparison to Karlsson. I have no clue of your age but I’ve followed this league for over 5 decades and from an offensive standpoint he’s one of the top 5 defenceman I’ve ever seen. Players like him are special. Players like Wallinder can be good or even very good, but that’s not the kind of player than can change a franchise.

Well said and while Yzerman has done a great job rebuilding thus far, Detroit needs to be closer to Buffalo and Ottawa. For a decent chunk of the season it seemed they were closing the gap, but now it’s clear they still have work to do. You don’t unload valuable assets unless you’re getting something special, which is what this trade would be.

You think EK can change this franchise?

What franchise has he changed so far in his career?? LOLOLOLOL Is it the one who wisely traded him off before he was too expensive or the one that's been in the cellar of the league for basically his entire time there?

If you think EK is a special players that's fine, but the price you have listed above is truly absurd.

You've just proven that you have no idea what youre talking about with this post.

It's clear they have work to do, so lets offload mutliple 1sts and quality prospects/pieces for a one-dimensional, 32-year old DMan who costs about $5M more than he's worth per season and can't play defense..

LOL, that is so rich.

Thanks kid but I’ll take my over half a century of knowledge over your “you don’t know what you’re talking about”. Get off the computer and find something to do for a bit. It’s clear you’re taking this too seriously.

1. SJ doesn't need that cap space at all.
2. SJ's owner is one of the richest (2-5 depending on the list), and has made clear he is totally fine burning tens of millions if it's a hockey decision.

God damn, 6.5M Erik Karlsson would be the best contract on the planet.

Seems like you're the one taking it to seriously. Now tell him to get off your lawn...

lol 27th percentile...literally the only number that matters here. You'd have to be royally stupid to pay EK anything over $6M a year.

It's clear you don't have a valid rebuttal (you can look above at that meaningless chart your friend posted).

Good effort.