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Créé par: zadinaveleno
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2023
Publié: 4 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
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DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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4 mars 2023 à 11 h 31
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interesting trade i dont know how debrincat has played this year but would be a nice addition to the top 6 on paper. what i love about yzerman is that he really doesn't have any bad contracts outside of chiarot.
4 mars 2023 à 11 h 34
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I think Detroit would have to also send a guy like Bergerren or another second or something for Ottawa to consider
4 mars 2023 à 12 h 7
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I don’t hate it, but we’re not getting Cat for that cheap. And we can’t go into next year with Hellberg backup again.
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4 mars 2023 à 12 h 34
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Too much term and $$$$ for Severson and Gudas. Gotta think of the cap in 24/25 and beyond with some expensive RFA to sign. Is DeBrincat an 8m player?
4 mars 2023 à 12 h 36
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a) DeBrincat is going to cost more than 8M a year. if that's all that he would take, then there's 0% chance the Sens would trade him
b) a mid first, an early-mid 2nd, and a guy considerably worse to replace him isn't even close anyways. just patently lower than what the Sens gave up for him in the first place
4 mars 2023 à 12 h 55
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Quoting: Brian_Lee_Harvey_Oswald
I think Detroit would have to also send a guy like Bergerren or another second or something for Ottawa to consider


This is a similar return to what Ottawa gave Chicago for the Cat though. You guys gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, so in my trade Kubalik replaces the 3rd, which seems appropriate.
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4 mars 2023 à 12 h 56
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Quoting: Michfan09
I don’t hate it, but we’re not getting Cat for that cheap. And we can’t go into next year with Hellberg backup again.


What's wrong with Hellberg as a backup?
4 mars 2023 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: palhal
Too much term and $$$$ for Severson and Gudas. Gotta think of the cap in 24/25 and beyond with some expensive RFA to sign. Is DeBrincat an 8m player?


Too much money and term, well welcome to free agency. You have to overpay a bit, and maybe give an extra year or 2 if you are serious about acquiring players. I just think it's obvious we need more grit and toughness, so Gudas would help with that, as would Austin Watson (he's from Michigan, could be a nice fit, although I know Ottawa likes him).
4 mars 2023 à 13 h 0
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
a) DeBrincat is going to cost more than 8M a year. if that's all that he would take, then there's 0% chance the Sens would trade him
b) a mid first, an early-mid 2nd, and a guy considerably worse to replace him isn't even close anyways. just patently lower than what the Sens gave up for him in the first place


Not sure how Ottawa fits DeBrincat at, let's say 8.5 per....also, this is basically the package you sent Chicago for DeBrincat, and it's not like he's lighting it up this year, so his value has remained similar. Take out Kubalik and add a B prospect if you want, but the value isn't as far off here as you are making it to be.
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4 mars 2023 à 14 h 36
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This is a similar return to what Ottawa gave Chicago for the Cat though. You guys gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, so in my trade Kubalik replaces the 3rd, which seems appropriate.


Ottawa isnt selling for futures. It would be a hockey trade if anything. But very likely Ottawa resigns cat
4 mars 2023 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
This is a similar return to what Ottawa gave Chicago for the Cat though. You guys gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, so in my trade Kubalik replaces the 3rd, which seems appropriate.


the first was seventh overall. this one projects to be like 18th lol
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4 mars 2023 à 16 h 10
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Quoting: palhal
Too much term and $$$$ for Severson and Gudas. Gotta think of the cap in 24/25 and beyond with some expensive RFA to sign. Is DeBrincat an 8m player?


If you want to sign a FA that's the best available at his position - you're going to have to pay. I'd actually guess at EITHER more money or term for Severson. Yes, DeBrincat is an $8M player.

Quoting: zadinaveleno
Not sure how Ottawa fits DeBrincat at, let's say 8.5 per....also, this is basically the package you sent Chicago for DeBrincat, and it's not like he's lighting it up this year, so his value has remained similar. Take out Kubalik and add a B prospect if you want, but the value isn't as far off here as you are making it to be.


That was the 7OA pick, season and lottery had already happened. It's less. Ottawa can make $8.5M work without too much trouble. They were paying $3.6M for Hamonic, that's almost a wash for Chychrun, Talbot is off the books @ $3.6M...... Whether that puts them in trouble with Sanderson, Pinto & Greig in a coupe years or not, that's another question. But only Giroux has a NMC, they could trade anyone to fix it.
4 mars 2023 à 16 h 17
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This is better than most of what I see. I’m sick of rebuilding to rebuild all over again.
4 mars 2023 à 20 h 15
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
Not sure how Ottawa fits DeBrincat at, let's say 8.5 per....also, this is basically the package you sent Chicago for DeBrincat, and it's not like he's lighting it up this year, so his value has remained similar. Take out Kubalik and add a B prospect if you want, but the value isn't as far off here as you are making it to be.


7th overall pick vs 13th or later overall pick is significant. and the Sens wouldn't be going off getting guys without the plans to be able to keep DeBrincat around
 
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