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Edmundson to Tampa

Créé par: TheRaphMan
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2023
Publié: 2 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Apparently the Lightning are interested in Joel Edmundson. In my opinion Howard would have to go the other way since he's basically the only thing of value that the lightning have to trade since they gave everything else for...

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MTL
  1. Howard, Isaac [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
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2 mars 2023 à 9 h 1
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Hedman Bogosian
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I think TB is fine on D
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2 mars 2023 à 9 h 4
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I don't think they give up more for Edmundson than they gave for Savard few years back (1+3rd+4th (to a 3rd team)). So would be Howard+a 2nd with the retention.
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2 mars 2023 à 9 h 6
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Quoting: MorHitzSeider
Hedman Bogosian
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Yeah I don't really understand the rumour tbh. Maybe one of those D-men is coming back in the trade?
2 mars 2023 à 9 h 10
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I don't think they give up more for Edmundson than they gave for Savard few years back (1+3rd+4th (to a 3rd team)). So would be Howard+a 2nd with the retention.


I feel like Montreal would get a 3rd too just because they have to wait until 2025 to get a 2nd
2 mars 2023 à 9 h 11
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Yeah I don't really understand the rumour tbh. Maybe one of those D-men is coming back in the trade?


Teams can always improve but Tampa can only really offer prospects at this point and they'll likely want to hold onto their best ones because they don't draft until 2067.

Perbix has really played well for them. I can't see him being traded. He recently signed a contract extension.
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2 mars 2023 à 9 h 13
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I feel like Montreal would get a 3rd too just because they have to wait until 2025 to get a 2nd


Maybe, but I don't think Edmundson is nearly as valuable as Savard was back then, he was a rental but still. Also, Howard could possible be worth more than a late 1st. The Leafs also got McCabe (50%) + Lafferty for a 2025 1st + 2026 2nd. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Edmundson with retention goes for less.

My guess is that they aren't offering Howard, and will end up with Kulikov or Seeler.
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2 mars 2023 à 9 h 33
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Didn't we hear the Luke Schenn was coming back stuff too?
2 mars 2023 à 9 h 34
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Quoting: MorHitzSeider
Teams can always improve but Tampa can only really offer prospects at this point and they'll likely want to hold onto their best ones because they don't draft until 2067.

Perbix has really played well for them. I can't see him being traded. He recently signed a contract extension.


Absolutely not they specifically told him to buy a house in the area according him his agent
2 mars 2023 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
Didn't we hear the Luke Schenn was coming back stuff too?


I can't verify this. 😁
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Maybe, but I don't think Edmundson is nearly as valuable as Savard was back then, he was a rental but still. Also, Howard could possible be worth more than a late 1st. The Leafs also got McCabe (50%) + Lafferty for a 2025 1st + 2026 2nd. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Edmundson with retention goes for less.

My guess is that they aren't offering Howard, and will end up with Kulikov or Seeler.


I think Edmundson (despite being injured) should be worth as much as Savard because he has the "playoff experience" GMs love (which Savard didn't have at the time Tampa got him)
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Yeah I don't really understand the rumour tbh. Maybe one of those D-men is coming back in the trade?


Actually it's pretty easy to understand Montreal people are going to their favorite insiders and saying something to the affect hey TB has been asking about Joel (true or not) to drive the price up trying to create a bidding war.
2 mars 2023 à 9 h 51
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Actually it's pretty easy to understand Montreal people are going to their favorite insiders and saying something to the affect hey TB has been asking about Joel (true or not) to drive the price up trying to create a bidding war.


Actually...



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I think Edmundson (despite being injured) should be worth as much as Savard because he has the "playoff experience" GMs love (which Savard didn't have at the time Tampa got him)


Fair point, but for TB they aren't going to pay extra for that, so it might be like @Boltsradynasty said or that JBB did inquire to compare the cost vs someone with 2 years like Seeler who isn't as good probably or a rental like Kulikov.


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Actually it's pretty easy to understand Montreal people are going to their favorite insiders and saying something to the affect hey TB has been asking about Joel (true or not) to drive the price up trying to create a bidding war.
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I think Edmundson (despite being injured) should be worth as much as Savard because he has the "playoff experience" GMs love (which Savard didn't have at the time Tampa got him)


JBB's track record show he really doesn't care about it. However your commentary on Savard is inaccurate. He had 37 play off games experience prior to playing for TB. Savard was a member of the CBJ who swept TB in 19
2 mars 2023 à 10 h 7
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As far as this year, where the path to the cup is going to be a bloodbath, I think trading Howard would be a mistake. He just feels like the type of player who could excel at an early age since he's in Tampas organization. His numbers aren't great this year, and I've hardly watched him, but I get the feeling he could be big piece for Tampa in a few years and keep their window open
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Quoting: Stammer_Time91
As far as this year, where the path to the cup is going to be a bloodbath, I think trading Howard would be a mistake. He just feels like the type of player who could excel at an early age since he's in Tampa organization. His numbers aren't great this year, and I've hardly watched him, but I get the feeling he could be big piece for Tampa in a few years and keep their window open


Tampa really excels at slow cooking their prospects in Syracuse. Something Yzerman started doing when he came to Tampa. Holland did the same in Detroit.
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Tampa really excels at slow cooking their prospects in Syracuse. Something Yzerman started doing when he came to Tampa. Holland did the same in Detroit.


Which is why when people say ohh Colton is 3rd liner blah blah blah. My response is on TB yes ,but your team isn't as deep and given the minutes has a serious chance of going Marchessault/.Verheaghe.
 
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