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Trying to fix this mess ALREADY

Créé par: Turkish_Canuck
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2023
Publié: 2 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Dalibor Dvorsky drafted 8th overall, after the Canucks inevitably slide.
Garland dealt at draft.
Myers dealt after bonus paid.
Boeser dealt at draft/free agency
Beauvillier at deadline (Ottawa pick lottery protected).

Theory is that teams will become more desperate for the likes of Garland/Boeser (possibly even Pearson or Beauvillier) in the summer, once they realise how poor this years free agency class is.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
52 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
32 600 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
1800 000 $
31 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Livingston, Jake
1950 000 $
Dvorsky, Dalibor
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Karabela, Jake [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler (3 000 000 $ retained)
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
OTT
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony (2 075 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. Murashov, Sergei [Liste de réserve]
  2. Pettersson, Marcus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Boeser, Brock (2 150 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de WSH
Logo de VAN
Logo de TOR
Logo de VAN
Logo de DET
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de OTT
Logo de PIT
Logo de VAN
Logo de ANA
Logo de PIT
Logo de VAN
Logo de TBL
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de WSH
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $75 779 759 $850 000 $932 500 $6 720 241 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Livingston, Jake
950 000 $950 000 $
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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2 mars 2023 à 5 h 22
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Anaheim doesn't want the retention on Myers, not going to give up draft capital for it.
2 mars 2023 à 5 h 37
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Hog will get a modest raise nothing more.

Bear will get squeezed at 2m or less.
2 mars 2023 à 5 h 53
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Quoting: Nighthawk
Hog will get a modest raise nothing more.

Bear will get squeezed at 2m or less.


Maybe, but those OP numbers look pretty close to me.
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2 mars 2023 à 6 h 33
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Beauvillier, Anthony is a 3rd line player, he is not worth a first and OTT has zero interest in him, OTT declines
2 mars 2023 à 6 h 44
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Anaheim doesn't want the retention on Myers, not going to give up draft capital for it.


Fair, although I'm certain there's a team that will take Myers at $3mil, only being owed $1mil in actual salary.
2 mars 2023 à 6 h 49
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Quoting: athrin
Beauvillier, Anthony is a 3rd line player, he is not worth a first and OTT has zero interest in him, OTT declines


He's PPG so far for the Canucks, can easily see him being on track for 60 points at next years deadline.
Dorion is the type of desperate GM I could see trading for him at a cap hit of only $2mil.

If not, someone else will BUT the Nucks are too deluded/short sighted to actually do anything constructive, so this whole exercise is pointless anyway.
2 mars 2023 à 6 h 50
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Quoting: Nighthawk
Hog will get a modest raise nothing more.

Bear will get squeezed at 2m or less.


Not saying this is what will actually happen, saying it's what I would do.
To me betting on Hog longer term at a higher hit is the exact type of move a forward thinking organisation would make.
It's the type of contract that he could very easily outperform in the long run.
2 mars 2023 à 7 h 19
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Fair, although I'm certain there's a team that will take Myers at $3mil, only being owed $1mil in actual salary.


MTL will but for a price. We want Jett Woo for our AHL club as lets fact it he's a pure AHL player i doubt VAN is going to QO this summer.
6th to 10th to 13th to 19th in VAN top 25 prospects under 25.


Myers and Woo and we'll give you Fairbrother
Fairbrother is a tough guy LD who protects the goalie at all costs.
Similar Cost ,size and role within their AHL system and both are likely not getting QO'd by their draft team.
He's more responsible then Woo an a good depth guy so im sure VAN or more likely Utica will sign him.

Woo sadly gets a NHL deal whether he deserves it our not as after Barron and Mailloux MTL has no RD signed for call ups .
The more we sell players off while getting injured simoteneously the more the odds are we might need him briefly from time to time risking waivers each time.


You dont get much but neither does MTL
We'd offer up Norlinder if you want him instead but odds are Fairbrother based on his Fists makes it to the NHL long before Norlinder does .
Norlinders a Special teams Dman who cant adjust to the speed of smaller ice and have struggled since coming over.
But Meyers even at 3m has a negative value


You'd have to find someone willing to RS the rest of this year which is worth a 3rd-5th round pick this year it seems.
But whats the cost for the entirety of next year you'd have to pay is the question ?
Because Myers at 1.5m cap hit might get you a 2nd round pick tops maybe a prospect thrown in like i offered (struggling or likely not re-signing at NHL level )

To be honest try as hard as i can , i just dont see how you can move him outside MTL if ANA isnt interested and ARZ's GM's refused to take bad contracts this TDL so far.
2 mars 2023 à 8 h 32
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Pens decline. I think the rumors of moving a D to Vancouver were hand-in-hand with them being in the Chychrun hunt. Trading away Pettersson is the dumbest thing we could do now. And even if that wasn't the case, it's not Pittsburgh who's adding.
2 mars 2023 à 8 h 37
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Quoting: Billy739
MTL will but for a price. We want Jett Woo for our AHL club as lets fact it he's a pure AHL player i doubt VAN is going to QO this summer.
6th to 10th to 13th to 19th in VAN top 25 prospects under 25.


Myers and Woo and we'll give you Fairbrother
Fairbrother is a tough guy LD who protects the goalie at all costs.
Similar Cost ,size and role within their AHL system and both are likely not getting QO'd by their draft team.
He's more responsible then Woo an a good depth guy so im sure VAN or more likely Utica will sign him.

Woo sadly gets a NHL deal whether he deserves it our not as after Barron and Mailloux MTL has no RD signed for call ups .
The more we sell players off while getting injured simoteneously the more the odds are we might need him briefly from time to time risking waivers each time.


You dont get much but neither does MTL
We'd offer up Norlinder if you want him instead but odds are Fairbrother based on his Fists makes it to the NHL long before Norlinder does .
Norlinders a Special teams Dman who cant adjust to the speed of smaller ice and have struggled since coming over.
But Meyers even at 3m has a negative value


You'd have to find someone willing to RS the rest of this year which is worth a 3rd-5th round pick this year it seems.
But whats the cost for the entirety of next year you'd have to pay is the question ?
Because Myers at 1.5m cap hit might get you a 2nd round pick tops maybe a prospect thrown in like i offered (struggling or likely not re-signing at NHL level )

To be honest try as hard as i can , i just dont see how you can move him outside MTL if ANA isnt interested and ARZ's GM's refused to take bad contracts this TDL so far.


Yeah I'd take Fairbrother for Woo and Myers (50% retained). However I'd still disagree that Myers at $3m is still negative value. Suppose we'll wait and see!
2 mars 2023 à 8 h 39
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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck
Fair, although I'm certain there's a team that will take Myers at $3mil, only being owed $1mil in actual salary.


There will be a team or two that is interested in Myers if they're having difficulty getting to the cap floor. Anaheim might be one, depending on if they decide to move on from one or more of Gibson, Henrique, Fowler & Silfverberg. If they land Connor Bedard, I could see Anaheim deciding to fully embrace the rebuild and bulk up their prospect/draft picks by flipping these quality (but older) players.
2 mars 2023 à 8 h 42
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Wingers in the off season don’t get traded for those kind of returns especially wingers that aren’t difference makers and Garland and Beauvilier aren’t difference makers. How much are VAN fans going to lose it if NYI fails to make the playoffs?
 
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