The Elliotte Friedman abbreviation for trade deadline

This is an embarrassing return given the circumstances. Held out only to be fleeced.

This seems to be the TDL where sellers waiting too long is a really bad idea huh

Pretty sure he pissed all the other GM's off and they called his bluff. This is a MASSIVE difference from what the reported "ask" was.

Also the Coyotes have 5 defenseman and play tonight. This team is a ****ing joke. Should just return to picks to the Senators so some poor kids don't have to be hindered by that franchise.

Embarrassing on so many levels. What will happen in 2 years when the novelty of that barn wears off and vistiing fans stop paying ridiculous prices. They cant even retain a little for a bigger return price. What a cheap, 2nd, 3rd rate franchise. Just move them to China.

I hate that they wont move the team to Canada!

Making room for Matthews

2+ years of rumors, requests, and sitting out…for this?

OTT win.

Or some place like Milwaukee, Portland, Houston; where there's an arena to move into an an actual market.



Matthews will want to pay paid in actual money and not casino tokens so I don't think the Coyotes will have a very convincing pitch.

Chychrun has already been sitting for a while so I don't think it matters that much.

Still a very soft return.

Ottawa wins this trade deadline. They get a guy with term on a team-friendly contract who fits with the age of their core and should help address their biggest need, for a price comparable to what other teams have been paying for rental forwards. I guess what appealed to Arizona is that Ottawa is probably going to miss the playoffs this year, so the 2023 pick will be higher than what they would get from a playoff team, especially since most of the playoff teams have already traded their 2023 1st.

Anybody know what the condition is on the 2023 pick? Cap Friendly says it’s conditional, but they only explain the condition on the 2024 pick. I assume it’s top 10 protection, in case they win one of the lottery draws.

WTF is Armstrong doing today?

I definitely think this is a rare Armstrong L BUT.....

As it stands, Ottawa pick is #12 right now... That's not bad... Especially considering Ottawa has traded its #7OA pick in 2022 and now ~#12OA pick in 2023. All to not make the playoffs...

top 5 protected in 2023

OTT can say goodbye to Pinto now though but what a fleece

There is now NO EXCUSE and I mean none for DJ smith next year, if he fails next year with this team

He’s history

What a joke of an organization Arizona is.

The Pens 1st Rd pick may be higher up than the Sens.

LOL

Lmao

Bill Armstrong overplayed his hand and too many suitors dropped out of the market. Dorion waited out the market and was the big winner because of it. While he had to do something to reward the team for getting back into a playoff position, he isn't in a do or die position like a Toronto. If he went out and gave up a 2nd for a #4-5 type rental, nobody is calling for his head (they might for other reasons...).

With that said, this is not a bad return at all. The Senators are trending towards a playoff spot, but things are so tight that it is far from guaranteed. With the strength of the 2023 draft, that pick could get Arizona a top 10 talent type prospect. It's a shame this trade wasn't made in the summer. If we didn't hear obscene asks like Pinto and 2 firsts, or Greig and 2 firsts, nobody would bat an eye at this return.

The Senators got Chychrun for a similar spread of picks that other teams got rentals like Gavrikov and Orlov for, but you have to consider there is a lot more upside with the Senators 2023 pick than say Boston's pick.

It's nice to see budget problems working out in the Senators favor for once after they were handicapped by in trades for years. Apparently a big reason why they got this done was because they could take Chychrun without sending money back to Arizona.

I wouldn't call this a loss for Arizona because it isn't like they had the option to keep a disgruntled star player who wanted out. I don't think they would have gotten more earlier in the process, but I also don't think they benefited much by dragging this on for a year. They also hurt their tank substantially. If they did this in the summer, they probably could have had Zaitsev playing 20 minutes a night instead of Chychrun. This is a loss in perception, because the entire thing was a circus on the part of Arizona, but I don't think it's a loss in terms of assets. Unless the Senators go on a run, they should get a great prospect with the 2023 pick, and then they also get both 2nds.

Given that the Zaitsev trade was required for Dorion to get this done, he basically gave up a 1st and 3 2nds for Chychrun. That's not a small price, but given Chychrun's term there is a reasonable chance Ottawa can recoup a 1st+ if they decide to move on from him before the contract is up. They certainly were not going to get a comparable defenseman signed at 4.6M and a favorable 3 years term on the free agency market.

Ironically, this is what would have happened with the Duchene trade if the A-GMs didn't back track and work to get everybody on the same page with the 3-way deal in Nashville. The Senators go on their losing streak and declare a rebuild, and Sakic's mark would have been gone.

Holding out like this usually doesn't work.

Top 5 protected

lmao embarrassing franchise , are the Coyotes the worst ran professional team in NA?

Get it right people.

The trade was for TWO 1st Rd picks and one 2nd Rd pick, because the Sens are Stanley Cup bound baby !

It's two 1sts if Ottawa reaches the 2023 ECF.

With that said, Arizona held out for way too long.

Given that Buffalo only held out on Eichel for about 8 months.