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Big Push for Next Season

Créé par: Riddick19
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2023
Publié: 24 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
41 650 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 150 000 $
31 650 000 $
88 250 000 $
2850 000 $
3885 000 $
32 500 000 $
3900 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
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OTT
  1. Whitecloud, Zach
Détails additionnels:
Won a World Championship paired with Chabot, would be a legit top 4 defenseman for Ottawa.
VGK
  1. Crookshank, Angus
  2. Talbot, Cam
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
This would be a deadline deal
Whitecloud has basically been replaced by Korczak who is younger and much cheaper for a bottom pairing defenseman on a team that is in horrible shape cap-wise. Vegas might even consider re-signing Talbot if they still want to dump Lehner in the offseason.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2284 000 000 $83 374 880 $0 $1 850 000 $625 120 $

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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 2
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 7
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UFA - 4
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
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C, AG
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
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RFA - 1
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835 000 $835 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 1
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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24 févr. à 6 h 54
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Lol vegas isn’t doing that. Whitecloud definitely holds the most value in this as he instantly becomes your 1RD and he’s locked up for 5 years under 3 million.
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Quoting: VGKNation702
Lol vegas isn’t doing that. Whitecloud definitely holds the most value in this as he instantly becomes your 1RD and he’s locked up for 5 years under 3 million.


Only because he'd be playing with Chabot... But he'd actually be the 2nd RD because Zub has more value than Whitecloud does. But Vegas will need the cap space, they have very little in the pipeline, Stone seems like his career is close to done with a wonky back, Eichel not playing badly but not even a point per game you'll never move him with that contract... Plus the only other players you're likely to move Stephenson maybe? You need him more than you need Whitecloud. Whitecloud like I said plays bottom pairing minutes and Korczak can likely replace him as he has played fairly well in his 10 games or so. I watch a lot of Vegas games because I work nights. Plus the Knights just added Dysin Mayo who is also a RD. So maybe it doesn't happen but not as far fetched as you're making it seem
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Canucks pass.Demko is not going anywhere.IMHO
24 févr. à 7 h 25
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Quoting: remowilliams
Canucks pass.Demko is not going anywhere.IMHO


That was the deal I have the most hesitation with honestly. I agree finding elite goaltending is hard and even if the Canucks go into rebuild, they should hold onto him. But if he is available? I would hope Ottawa would really push hard for him. I know he has struggled this season, but it happens, they'd be stupid to move him. So as a Sens fan? I hope Alvin isn't that bright lol =)
24 févr. à 7 h 30
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That was the deal I have the most hesitation with honestly. I agree finding elite goaltending is hard and even if the Canucks go into rebuild, they should hold onto him. But if he is available? I would hope Ottawa would really push hard for him. I know he has struggled this season, but it happens, they'd be stupid to move him. So as a Sens fan? I hope Alvin isn't that bright lol =)


Lol.He would be great with the Sens could make them contenders,but he loves it here.Im not sure these days what Alvin will do so......
24 févr. à 8 h 58
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Your premise for the Vegas trade is that they need to move cap space in order to solve their team needs. So the solution is to trade a cost controlled player signed for another 5 years or their other cost controlled player in Stephenson.

1. If Stone and Lehner are back next year they have 2.5M in cap space with a 22 man roster, without making a move so not in desperate need of cap space.
2. Talbot isn't worth that cost when Hill is only day to day (currently skating) and Brossoit is a more than capable backup
3. Martinez's contract is up in 1 more year so the more likely target to move
4. They can get a better return for Whitecloud if their intention was to free up space for Korczak or Miromanov
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24 févr. à 9 h 27
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Quoting: Riddick19
Only because he'd be playing with Chabot... But he'd actually be the 2nd RD because Zub has more value than Whitecloud does. But Vegas will need the cap space, they have very little in the pipeline, Stone seems like his career is close to done with a wonky back, Eichel not playing badly but not even a point per game you'll never move him with that contract... Plus the only other players you're likely to move Stephenson maybe? You need him more than you need Whitecloud. Whitecloud like I said plays bottom pairing minutes and Korczak can likely replace him as he has played fairly well in his 10 games or so. I watch a lot of Vegas games because I work nights. Plus the Knights just added Dysin Mayo who is also a RD. So maybe it doesn't happen but not as far fetched as you're making it seem


But it is as farfetched. Whitecloud is on a very team friendly deal. If they want to move cap it’s not he or Stephenson like you are saying, it’s Martinez or Karlsson. Not the dude they just locked up for 6 years under 3 million lol
24 févr. à 18 h 34
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Quoting: VGKNation702
But it is as farfetched. Whitecloud is on a very team friendly deal. If they want to move cap it’s not he or Stephenson like you are saying, it’s Martinez or Karlsson. Not the dude they just locked up for 6 years under 3 million lol


How are you getting rid of those guys? No one would want them... You don't have much in the way of Prospects so that eliminates trading your 1st rounders as those are your future cheap talent to replace these guys with. Karlsson has 5 years left!!! At what $6M a season? If you haven't noticed teams are putting some actual talent on waivers simply to get rid of cap... So if you're going to clear cap space you sure as hell aren't going to get rid of Karlsson unless you're eating about 50% of his cap hit for 5 years... and Martinez is the best defensive d-man you have. Point of trading Whitecloud is because you already have a cheap replacement for him. You're going to need to spend at least what you're paying Martinec to replace him if not more at the rate defenseman are being paid.
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Your premise for the Vegas trade is that they need to move cap space in order to solve their team needs. So the solution is to trade a cost controlled player signed for another 5 years or their other cost controlled player in Stephenson.

1. If Stone and Lehner are back next year they have 2.5M in cap space with a 22 man roster, without making a move so not in desperate need of cap space.
2. Talbot isn't worth that cost when Hill is only day to day (currently skating) and Brossoit is a more than capable backup
3. Martinez's contract is up in 1 more year so the more likely target to move
4. They can get a better return for Whitecloud if their intention was to free up space for Korczak or Miromanov


They have $2.5M with 18 skaters still need another 4. Martinez is a top defenseman making under $6M and is the best defensive d-man you have. When you're trying to win and shed cap space you're not selling off your top pairing RD, especially when he is a great cap hit. I do agree Whitecloud is on a good cap hit but he's a bottom pairing guy on Vegas and $2.75M is great if he is playing in your top 4 but he isn't. Tip my hat to the Knights they built a helluva defense I'd say the best in the league in my opinion.

Ottawa shed salary because they need to re-sign DeBrincat.... They're not going to sell off Chabot or Zub to get it done. They sold off Zaitsev. Ottawa has had a ton of draft picks pan out so they have a base of prospects to replace guys like Watson (4th line), Brasard (3rd-4th Line), Holden (3rd pairing)... Hard to win making guys like Martinez the casualties. You're not going to move Karlsson, not unless you're throwing multiple 1st rounders and still likely taking on salary to retain.

I mentioned Talbot because apparently Vegas has been kicking tires on him and they did kick tires on him before the season started. You sold of Patches to start the year for nothing and the offense is struggling for it. You trade off Martinez and you're not getting better. Vegas is in win-now. If you can move out a bottom pairing guy, replace with a cheaper just as talented guy in Korczak? It makes sense. Bottom pairing guys generally are making in the $900K - $1.4M. Whitecloud although talented, is an overpayment for the position. He's not that on most teams, but Vegas needs that cap hit to apply up front.
 
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