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Selling for Futures

Créé par: siegeell
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2023
Publié: 9 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Newkirk, Reece
  3. Odelius, Calle
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional (Top 10 Protected)
NYI
  1. Leivo, Josh
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
2.
STL
  1. Honka, Anttoni
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Better of CAR/PHI 2024 2nd RD Pick
CAR
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
3.
STL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2024 3rd*

If VGK makes WCF 2024 in 2022/2023 pick transfers to a 2024 2nd
4.
STL
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Acciari, Noel
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (STL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
Logo de STL
Logo de BUF
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2024
Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
Logo de STL
Logo de PHI
Logo de STL
Logo de VGK
Logo de TBL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2025
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 765 000 $1 100 000 $390 000 $1 735 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
835 833 $835 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
816 667 $816 667 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 29
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vegas accepts
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 33
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Super hard pass by NYI at that price….
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 34
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Unbiased lol nah
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WAYYYY undersold Barbashev. Asking price starts at a first. may not get all of that but I think he's a better player than Barclay Goodrow and Blake Coleman and they both got a first
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 35
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No thanks from CAR. Value not bad but not interested in the player right now.
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 38
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Interesting idea on Namestnikov. Underproduced in Tampa and has a relatively high cap hit for his production. A move like this would open up Tampa's ability to buy another cheap rental without sending another player out to make the cap work.
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 42
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I want Tarasenko but not for that. Hard pass
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 43
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what would be the price for Tampa to get both Acciari and Barbashev with Namestnikov going the other way
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: Jchockey12
WAYYYY undersold Barbashev. Asking price starts at a first. may not get all of that but I think he's a better player than Barclay Goodrow and Blake Coleman and they both got a first


Both those guys had a much longer track record of being top-tier defensive forwards - something Barbashev really isn't. Both of them also had an extra year of term at a lower AAV than Barbashev, who's a pure rental - Coleman had a $1.8M AAV and Goodrow only cost $925K. I just don't think this is a really relevant comparison for trade value.
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 48
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This should be titled "underselling for meh futures".
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: Point21
what would be the price for Tampa to get both Acciari and Barbashev with Namestnikov going the other way


One Tampa can't pay, presumably. Not much in the way of enticing futures in that cupboard. They could perhaps get Acciari with their 23 3rd, though.
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: Jchockey12
WAYYYY undersold Barbashev. Asking price starts at a first. may not get all of that but I think he's a better player than Barclay Goodrow and Blake Coleman and they both got a first


Goodrow and Coleman got better returns because they were both under contract for another year at a cheap cap hit. Barbashev is a straight up rental.
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 54
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Canes pass. ROR looks really slow, not trading an almost 1st round pick for a rental
9 févr. 2023 à 13 h 4
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I feel like I’m in the minority of Isles fans here, but this isn’t a hard pass for me. For me, it’d depend on whether or not Tarasenko is willing to extend at a reasonable price. If he comes extended anywhere around 6m aav, I’d do this trade. Bailey’s contract isn’t worth his production, and giving up a 1st and a 2nd to switch out a bad contract for a good one (Odelius is behind an LHD logjam and Newkirk is a depth prospect for sure) is worth it to me.

Now, my guess is Tarasenko does NOT extend at that low of a price (though given his age and injury history, that’s what I think he’d be worth), so without that favorable extension, I don’t do this deal. But I do think there’s something to this deal.
9 févr. 2023 à 13 h 8
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Quoting: Hawkisles
I feel like I’m in the minority of Isles fans here, but this isn’t a hard pass for me. For me, it’d depend on whether or not Tarasenko is willing to extend at a reasonable price. If he comes extended anywhere around 6m aav, I’d do this trade. Bailey’s contract isn’t worth his production, and giving up a 1st and a 2nd to switch out a bad contract for a good one (Odelius is behind an LHD logjam and Newkirk is a depth prospect for sure) is worth it to me.

Now, my guess is Tarasenko does NOT extend at that low of a price (though given his age and injury history, that’s what I think he’d be worth), so without that favorable extension, I don’t do this deal. But I do think there’s something to this deal.


I'd rather keep Odelus and swap in Salo, but I don't really see the need for Leivo and I'm not a big fan of sending out *another* 1st round pick. It's the type of trade where I'd roll my eyes and go "predictable Lou" but if VT would be open to signing a shorter-term, higher AAV contract that doesn't kill the cap I don't think I'd lose sleep over it.
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9 févr. 2023 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
I'd rather keep Odelus and swap in Salo, but I don't really see the need for Leivo and I'm not a big fan of sending out *another* 1st round pick. It's the type of trade where I'd roll my eyes and go "predictable Lou" but if VT would be open to signing a shorter-term, higher AAV contract that doesn't kill the cap I don't think I'd lose sleep over it.


That all makes sense. My real objection to STL fans over the price of Tarasenko is they keep insisting on sign and trade level prices in a scenario where he’s likely a pure rental. Now, if Tank signs at a reasonable price with wherever he ends up, I do think he’s worth a late 1st round pick, a 2nd rounder and some B and C prospects. But my guess is Tank wants to cash in, and SOME team will be desperate enough to sign him for 7.5-8m in UFA. He’s got a Cup, he might as well cash in.
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