So 4 players that PHI doesn;t want/need/have collective negative value?

Why are they even in that deal? Its ridiculous. SDA/Simmonds/Engvall have ZERO value to Philly. Robertson;s value is at an all time low. Take out the ridiculous stuff and Hirvonen, a 1st, 2 3rds and a 4th isn;t a bad offer for Koneckny, but why would they throw in the other pieces or want the toronto junk

You posted a team yesterday with an equally ridiculous Koneckny offer that I dismantled, this deal is even worse.

Your leaf crap is still crap

Thinking was:
1st, 3rd, Hirvonen > Konecky
SDA, Robertson, 3rd > Frost
4th, Simmonds (as a stop gap) > MacEwen
Engvall > cap room/can fill Frost's slot for Philly until year end.

The old 9 for 3 trade. LOL

Oh boy washed up Wayne Simmonds is included.

Yeah this is getting Konecny. 🤭

A strange trade indeed.

I think that light for Koneckny, especially following more expensive UFA Horvat's deal
SDA has really minimal value, Robertson after a second season of poor production, healthy scratches, and ANOTHER injury has low value, and a late round 3rd probably just a tad light for Frost
Simmonds has zero value, and MacEwen is probably worth a 4th/5th to a number of contending teams looking for physicality.
Engvall is a cap dump and theres no compansation.

Ultimately most of the offer is not anything PHI wants/needs, and they are giving up something they dont need to. For them to move Koneckny they'd have to be overpaid/Wow'ed, not underpaid.

The offer doesn;t evaluate what PHI wants/needs. They are playing a ton of young guys now, missing 2 of their top 6 forwards all year and still around .500. The prospects you offer are either damaged or have little value or in the PHI system, SDA doesn;t make top 20 prospects, and Robertson barely in the top 10 forward prospects. Hirvonen is probably behind some of whats already arrived (Cates, Frost, Alison, Tippett) and then Gautheir, Brink, and Forester at forward alone.
Why would PHI want to take an expiring UFA they dont need in Engvall just to make it work for TOR and still accept underpayment for 2 forwards 25 yrs old or less. Koneckny is a perfect, underpaid, young player that PHI doesn't have to move, and key for the rebuild/retool, so they'd have to be overpaid/wow'ed. TK is signed long term at under market value, and to accept what higher priced UFA Horvat (also a 50-60pt guy through his career) just got last week is crazy.

If you want Koneckny, and this is your second TK proposal in 2 days, offer what it will take, not what you're willing to toss out.

TK to TOR probably starts with Niemala (PHI lacks RD prospects), your 2023 1st and your 2023 3rd and probably something more, (maybe the OTT 2023 3rd) and thats without Frost, MacEwen.