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I am confused and a trade

Créé par: Kyriakos_Grizzly
Équipe: 2022-23 Panthers de la Floride
Date de création initiale: 8 févr. 2023
Publié: 8 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I thought the Panthers needed more Cap space so they can get Duclair back in the lineup. They have over 500k Cap space with Duclair in the lineup. What I am missing here?

Trade itself:

Some Wings fans say we should trade our UFA's for futures only and some say that we need to get immediate help. This trade brings in both.
If Vrana is traded / Bought out: Wings need to bring in another goals scorer. Couple picks going back to Detroit for retaining money and giving the Panthers more Cap room. Bertuzzi and Duclair are both 27y old with pretty similar numbers. Duclair has one more year left on his deal while Bertuzzi is a UFA.
Transactions
FLA
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler (2 375 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Bertuzzi brings the "playoff style" hockey that Paul Maurice wants from his players.
DET
  1. Duclair, Anthony
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Vrana's replacement.
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 920 834 $637 500 $2 700 000 $3 579 166 $
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4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 425 000 $4 425 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 666 667 $2 666 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
G
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
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750 000 $750 000 $
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 21
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Red Wings decline. I think they can do better in a Bert trade. I think his value is much higher than it is on CFACGM. 🤭

Bert certainly would be a good fit in Sunrise.
8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 23
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gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 24
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs


That is true, but you know what I mean.
8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs


Just to add....Panthers are in 11th place in the East. Panthers/Bertuzzi and playoffs doesn't seem to combination we will see in the spring of 2023.
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Red Wings decline. I think they can do better in a Bert trade. I think his value is much higher than it is on CFACGM. 🤭

Bert certainly would be a good fit in Sunrise.


I don't necessarily think he's being undervalued, but I also don't know if this is the right fit for the Wings.

Healthy Bertuzzi was very solid. The issue that I have is that the return from hand surgery rarely results in the player coming back and being 100% immediately after.
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 31
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Quoting: Lenny7
I don't necessarily think he's being undervalued, but I also don't know if this is the right fit for the Wings.

Healthy Bertuzzi was very solid. The issue that I have is that the return from hand surgery rarely results in the player coming back and being 100% immediately after.


Bert would fit on any playoff team. GM's know this which is why he'll get a much better return than CFACGM posters think.
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Just to add....Panthers are in 11th place in the East. Panthers/Bertuzzi and playoffs doesn't seem to combination we will see in the spring of 2023.


I didn't say anything about the playoffs. I spoke about Bertuzzi's playstyle.
8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs


Kris Draper won 4 Cups. Marcel Dionne won zero Cups. Draper must've been better.
8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 35
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Just to add....Panthers are in 11th place in the East. Panthers/Bertuzzi and playoffs doesn't seem to combination we will see in the spring of 2023.


I'm still not on the "Florida is going to miss the playoffs" train, but yeah, it's a pretty big longshot right now. I think it's more just disbelief at how they've fallen off, but how do you expect to win with that D-core, and missing Ekblad a lot of the time.

Realistically, they probably need 44 pts in their last 29 games to even come close to sniffing the last wildcard spot. That's slightly better than the .700 pts percentage that they've put up in their past 10 games, in which they've gone 6-2-2 (Which would get them 41 pts.).

Would need a pretty incredible finish to the season.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Kris Draper won 4 Cups. Marcel Dionne won zero Cups. Draper must've been better.


Bertuzzi hasnt played a single second of playoff hockey. not sure what draper and Dionne have to do with this.
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 37
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Projected cap hit doesn't include the performance bonuses.
Lundell and Knight have performance bonuses which aren't included. If they hit them, they may just go into the overage pool for next season if Florida is at the limit this year. Would have to review the rules to be certain.
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 37
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I'd take Bert for duclair straight I don't need picks. I'd rather duclair than the middling 2nd rounder we'd get for Bert
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 48
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Needing cap space was from before Hornqvist went on LTIR. It's a problem that will come back when he needs to come off.
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8 févr. 2023 à 11 h 52
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I'd take Bert for duclair straight I don't need picks. I'd rather duclair than the middling 2nd rounder we'd get for Bert


I would do that as well.

It feels like some fans don't think beyond the immediate future. Duclair has a cheap Cap hit (-3,000,000). If Duclair plays well in Detroit, I am sure a team would pay more for him than for Bertuzzi (2nd round pick ?).
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs


Kind of like calling Anderson a playoff beast with 14 points in 43 games.
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Quoting: aedoran
Kind of like calling Anderson a playoff beast with 14 points in 43 games.


both are incorrect statements
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
gotta love the term playoff style for a guy who has never once played in the playoffs


Quoting: palhal
Just to add....Panthers are in 11th place in the East. Panthers/Bertuzzi and playoffs doesn't seem to combination we will see in the spring of 2023.


😏
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Quoting: Kyriakos_Grizzly
😏


Wasn't I speaking of the Carolina Panthers? Kinda funny, the high flying Bruins obtain Bertuzzi for their playoff push. And the Panthers 40 points behind the Bruins, fourth in the Atlantic, catch fire at the end of the season, beat the 1st Bruins in round one and looks like the 2nd place Leafs in round two.
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