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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2023
Publié: 5 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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SJS
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Olofsson, Victor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $64 701 667 $0 $3 620 000 $17 798 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
UFA - 1

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5 févr. 2023 à 12 h 44
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Both deals seem somewhat fair
5 févr. 2023 à 12 h 51
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I wonder if Dumba is that big of an upgrade on Jokiharju
And i don’t think Greenway is that good at all

Also think we need to upgrade LD3
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5 févr. 2023 à 12 h 54
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San Jose isn't gonna want olofsson, they are gonna want a blue chip prospect to go with the first round pick. I don't think olofsson gets a first rounder to a different team, which is probably the only way that San Jose would take this. Plus the sabres literally have 4 forward prospects who would be worth more than the late first that San Jose would be lucky to get if they flipped him. And I like olofsson and don't mind him staying too.
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5 févr. 2023 à 13 h 2
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San Jose isn't gonna want olofsson, they are gonna want a blue chip prospect to go with the first round pick. I don't think olofsson gets a first rounder to a different team, which is probably the only way that San Jose would take this. Plus the sabres literally have 4 forward prospects who would be worth more than the late first that San Jose would be lucky to get if they flipped him. And I like olofsson and don't mind him staying too.


Agreed
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5 févr. 2023 à 13 h 30
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Quoting: sabres89
San Jose isn't gonna want olofsson, they are gonna want a blue chip prospect to go with the first round pick. I don't think olofsson gets a first rounder to a different team, which is probably the only way that San Jose would take this. Plus the sabres literally have 4 forward prospects who would be worth more than the late first that San Jose would be lucky to get if they flipped him. And I like olofsson and don't mind him staying too.


Very reasonable and accurate take.
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5 févr. 2023 à 13 h 43
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The Wild say YES!!
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 50
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Quoting: Buffalove
I wonder if Dumba is that big of an upgrade on Jokiharju
And i don’t think Greenway is that good at all

Also think we need to upgrade LD3


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5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: RazWild
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Meh
Jokiharju has been battling injuries all year & Power was pretty rough to start the season

They’ve started to grow together as partners now

I’m not saying Dumba sucks by any means
Just don’t know that he’s a big enough upgrade to break up the chemistry that’s growing- especially since we don’t know if Dumba & Power would even have any together
5 févr. 2023 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: Buffalove
Meh
Jokiharju has been battling injuries all year & Power was pretty rough to start the season

They’ve started to grow together as partners now

I’m not saying Dumba sucks by any means
Just don’t know that he’s a big enough upgrade to break up the chemistry that’s growing- especially since we don’t know if Dumba & Power would even have any together


While their numbers are similar from a production standpoint. Dumba's usage and deployment has him pitted against teams higher lines, something Jokiharju doesn't do or is trusted enough to to.

Furthermore as the graphs clearly show Dumba is far better defensively than Jokiharju, though Jokiharju has better possession numbers.

But the entire reasoning and desire from Sabers fans of late is that they want a veteran RHD who is solid to good defensively and is a lockerroom guy who can stabilize the backend because of its overall youth.

Dumba fits that mold to a tee. He's far better defensively than people give him credit for. And he wears an A in Minnesota for a reason. He's about of a rah-rah type of guy as you can get in this league.

Obviously you have a point in regards to chemistry. It's a risk. But that's true for all players in the NHL. GM's need to stay weary of it and not disrupt it whenever making additions to the team. But say what you want about Dumba as a player, his teammates love him, he's the type to get along with everybody he plays with.

He's played primarily played with either Suter or Brodin through his career, but he's played with others and was fine. Chemistry, typically, takes time to grow as players get used to each other. He can develop that chemistry in time with the Saber's D-core too. That isn't specific to the players currently on roster. Bottom line, you can't say for certain it WON'T work either. Because they might have excellent potential together for all we know. But you'll never know unless you try.

Besides, he's the same age as Lyubushkin. One of the 3rd pairing guys could get moved to make room for those that are better options.
5 févr. 2023 à 19 h 16
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Quoting: RazWild
While their numbers are similar from a production standpoint. Dumba's usage and deployment has him pitted against teams higher lines, something Jokiharju doesn't do or is trusted enough to to.

Furthermore as the graphs clearly show Dumba is far better defensively than Jokiharju, though Jokiharju has better possession numbers.

But the entire reasoning and desire from Sabers fans of late is that they want a veteran RHD who is solid to good defensively and is a lockerroom guy who can stabilize the backend because of its overall youth.

Dumba fits that mold to a tee. He's far better defensively than people give him credit for. And he wears an A in Minnesota for a reason. He's about of a rah-rah type of guy as you can get in this league.

Obviously you have a point in regards to chemistry. It's a risk. But that's true for all players in the NHL. GM's need to stay weary of it and not disrupt it whenever making additions to the team. But say what you want about Dumba as a player, his teammates love him, he's the type to get along with everybody he plays with.

He's played primarily played with either Suter or Brodin through his career, but he's played with others and was fine. Chemistry, typically, takes time to grow as players get used to each other. He can develop that chemistry in time with the Saber's D-core too. That isn't specific to the players currently on roster. Bottom line, you can't say for certain it WON'T work either. Because they might have excellent potential together for all we know. But you'll never know unless you try.

Besides, he's the same age as Lyubushkin. One of the 3rd pairing guys could get moved to make room for those that are better options.


I’m not totally shooting the idea down
But Dumba is also a UFA
So the Sabres would have to know they could sign him
Our GM has already said he isn’t gonna trade for any “rentals”

Also, like i said, i think MGMT here really likes Jokiharju and he has been playing better with Power
It’s not about what the “fans want”
Just trying to be realistic with ya
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 0
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Quoting: Buffalove
I’m not totally shooting the idea down
But Dumba is also a UFA
So the Sabres would have to know they could sign him
Our GM has already said he isn’t gonna trade for any “rentals”

Also, like i said, i think MGMT here really likes Jokiharju and he has been playing better with Power
It’s not about what the “fans want”
Just trying to be realistic with ya


Don't worry, I hear ya.

I more or less, agree.

But I'm just pointing out he's a better fit then some fans care to admit or are dismissing him out of hand because they don't like him or because they think he's bad, when that's hardly the case.
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: RazWild
Don't worry, I hear ya.

I more or less, agree.

But I'm just pointing out he's a better fit then some fans care to admit or are dismissing him out of hand because they don't like him or because they think he's bad, when that's hardly the case.


For sure
Up until a few days ago, I’d have probably fallen into that category as well
Dumba definitely did develop a rep for being poor defensively,
and i don’t watch much Minny hockey
I’ve been told by a handful of Wild fans that his defense has definitely improved though, so he might actually be a good fit for us in that respect
Might be worth the gamble on our part
But like i said before, it seems unlikely our GM would make this type move
I think it would be interesting though
 
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