Ehhh I think that’s pushing it then

Darcytucker likes to follow me around. It's ok

never forget that the playoff run that Habs fans love to point to as value for Josh Anderson had him put up 5-1-6 in 22 GP - the exact same stat line that Matt Martin put up for the Islanders in the playoffs the year before. Oh, and Anderson had two 2-goal games in that run - meaning that in his other 20 games, he had a single goal and single assist, total.

. None of what you just said justifies that Anderson is good at defense

That's 43 more than Skinner, 6 more than Mcdavid. 43 is not nothing.

My Capfriendly buddy.

You definitely post like your namesake played, I'll give you that.

I like interacting with you, but I think you overvalue Buffalo too much for a team that hasn't reached the playoffs in over a decade. Buffalo cant afford to be as selective as you want them to be. Thats not an insult, just something I noticed.

So he's played on a few teams that made the playoffs. Are you suggesting he's better than McDavid??

Did I? But you acted like 43 is nothing. It's more than the average active NHL player. Anyways I'm not even a habs fan or an Anderson fan, so I'm not even involved in this debate I just think he is over-hated. At 3.5M I would like him on the Leafs.

Perspective: Anderson scores at a higher rate at even strength than Horvat.
Not saying they are comparable players, but if Boeser is getting (maybe) $9M, perhaps Anderson's production at $5.5M isn't actually that bad and people are underrating him mainly because he isn't producing a point per game with his low PP and assist totals. He's a more effective player at carrying the puck with speed than at standing around and passing.
That ability to carry the puck down the ice and be a consistent contributor at even strength may not always be quantifiable, but are still important aspects to have in a lineup.

Since he is a Hab (2020-21 to now), only 48 players have scored at a better rate at even-strength (leaving out PP because even-strength scoring is even more important and the Habs have the 31st PP in that span). It's still impressive. He's ahead of guys like Draisaitl, B. Tkachuk, Laine, Guentzel, Kreider and just behind MacKinnon, Barkov, DeBrincat, etc. It's not bad company at all. Add to that his ability to skate as fast as anyone, to throw is body around and even drop the gloves when needed... It checks a lot of boxes. What Anderson doesn't do (playmaking, backchecking), playoff teams have in their other players. I don't know why people are so adamant about calling him a cap dump that takes a 1st to offload.

Could throw him in the trade too 👀

It actually does, look at some of the other more defensive wingers around the league who get more defensive zone starts than offensive. They tend to have a CF that hovers around 50% while mostly on good defensive teams, for instance Killorn is at 49.5% CF while having almost the exact zone start percentages as Anderson (43.3% OzS and 56.7% DzS) on a much better defensive team. If Anderson was on the Lightening his CF would raise exponentially even with his mostly DzS.

that just shows that Montreal spends a bunch of time in the own zone cuz they arent good. It doesnt mean players on Carolina who start 60% in the O zone are bad at D. We just start a bunch in the O zone.

I wasn't saying the Canes players were bad at D, I was saying that Anderson's deployment on the Habs is mostly defensive and since our D is comprised mostly of rookies, Matheson and Wideman types of players that is going to significantly pull down the forwards stats and make them look worse defensively than they actually are. Again it is evident in Josh's career CF and zone starts, which almost mirror Killorn's. Anderson - career CF 50.1%, OzS 51.5%, DzS 48.5% Killorn - CF 54.3%, OzS 55.2%, DzS 44.8%. Again Killorn is still better defensively but not by a hell of a lot and gets slightly more offensive zone starts. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying Josh is elite defensively, I am just saying this narrative of him sucking defensively is blown way out of proportion.

Playoff GP means ****all though. Joel Armia has played 44 playoff games and has 10 goals, both bigger numbers than
Anderson. Why don't the Leafs trade for him?

A few years ago before that current deal, why not. But armia doesnt look as good as Anderson right now

The last time they were both in the playoffs, Armia outperformed Anderson. You should trade a 1st +for Armia.

Boeser hasn't sucked defensively his entiry career, and that contract isn't terrible