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Créé par: dgibb10

Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2023

Publié: 2 févr. 2023

Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey

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Not 100% sure which teams may be looking for a guy like severson, but a RHD who has been proven to be able to play top minutes, move the puck, and is pretty sound defensively should have significant value as a rental (devils could also retain in this case), especially considering ive been hearing his free agency market will be upwards of 5 mill AAV.
Devils get a winger for jack, keep holtz (although i would be willing to put him in for shakir if the severson return is lower), and can still run a very strong Dcore into the playoffs especially if Luke is ready and can replace smith in sheltered minutes + PP.

Tatar and Mercer as third line wingers gives the devils amazing depth and would put them in an incredible position to make a run at a cup while still having a great long term future.

If im off on any trade values let me know

Transactions

NJD

Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (DAL)
Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (DAL)

DAL

Severson, Damon

NJD

Meier, Timo

SJS

Mukhamadullin, Shakir
Wood, Miles
Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (NJD)
Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

If miles wood could be traded for any kind of value to any team(which would then be passed onto SJS, that would be fantastic), as Wood has the speed and shot that GMs overpay for for some reason. if not then to make salaries work

Rachats de contrats

Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Janne Kuokkanen: 200 000 $

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Enfoui

Andreas Johnsson: 2 275 000 $ (3 400 000 $)

ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE	1E RONDE	2E RONDE	3E RONDE	4E RONDE	5E RONDE	6E RONDE	7E RONDE
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	75 249 126 $	0 $	4 582 500 $	7 250 874 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 5	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Bratt, Jesper 5 450 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Sharangovich, Yegor 2 000 000 $ AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Tatar, Tomas 4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Haula, Erik 2 375 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Mercer, Dawson 894 167 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Boqvist, Jesper 874 125 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 1	Mcleod, Michael 975 000 $ C RFA - 1	Bastian, Nathan 825 000 $ AD, C RFA - 1
		Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $ AD, AG RFA - 3
		Zetterlund, Fabian 750 000 $ AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Siegenthaler, Jonas 1 125 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Vanecek, Vitek 3 400 000 $ G UFA - 3
Graves, Ryan 3 166 667 $ DG UFA - 1	Marino, John 4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 800 000 $ G RFA - 1
Smith, Brendan 1 100 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Nemec, Simon 950 000 $ DD RFA - 3
Bahl, Kevin 795 000 $ DG RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Bernier, Jonathan 4 125 000 $ G UFA - 1

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RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

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Im my honest opinion I believe the package that gets this done is 1st/Shara/2 B prospects. I think shark fans feel it’s fair value. We don’t share the same evaluation as they do about Holtz, they see him as B level prospect. I use the same developmental progress of Timo Meier when he was 20/21 in the NHL to disagree with that connotation. If the ask is 1st/Holtz/Shara, we should be saying no.

2 févr. à 16 h 7

Opie

Rejoint: mai 2017

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Nemec not ready ... needs another year in AHL

Tintin a aimé ceci.

2 févr. à 16 h 19

NHLfan10506

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: RV23

100%

Holtz isn’t going to be traded.

2 févr. à 16 h 20

NHLfan10506

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: Opie

Nemec not ready ... needs another year in AHL

At least just to preserve the slide. I hope he stays in AHL next year too.

Tintin a aimé ceci.

2 févr. à 16 h 22

dgibb10

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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Quoting: RV23

If they dont value Holtz as an A prospect there is no chance I put him into any package. Not worth it

2 févr. à 16 h 36

RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

Mentions "j'aime": 91

Quoting: dgibb10

If they dont value Holtz as an A prospect there is no chance I put him into any package. Not worth it

Yes absolutely. If we come back to planet earth and give him the proper evaluation as an “A”, we can begin to put together a package around him. If not, we’ll happily keep him.

2 févr. à 16 h 46

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Quoting: RV23

Yes absolutely. If we come back to planet earth and give him the proper evaluation as an “A”, we can begin to put together a package around him. If not, we’ll happily keep him.

Why does he deserve that rating though? Hes barely played and clearly isnt liked by the NJ coaching staff

Sjbackseatgm a aimé ceci.

2 févr. à 16 h 52

RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

Mentions "j'aime": 91

Quoting: papishark

Why does he deserve that rating though? Hes barely played and clearly isnt liked by the NJ coaching staff

By that same logic, Timo Meier wasn’t an “A prospect” his first two years in the NHL (37 points in 115 games which is .32 PPG). You wouldn’t have given him up for anything less than what you knew he was worth even when he was struggling. We all know Holtz is going to be a 70-80 point player down the road. He isn’t fully developed yet, you think we’re just gonna give him up, and a 1st, and Shara. Cmon man.

2 févr. à 16 h 59

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Quoting: RV23

Timo wasnt very good. His value was certainly lower then, but we trusted the process and waited and didnt trade him for an elite forward.

That is a choice you have, but if you want to trade for a top guy, you will have to pay with guys like him.

2 févr. à 17 h 2

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RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

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Quoting: papishark

Yes, but you need to be fair in the evaluation. I’m not saying I won’t give you Holtz, I’m simply saying all these 1st/Holtz/Shara proposals are non starters. If it’s Holtz + 1st you can’t ask for much more.

2 févr. à 17 h 4

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papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Quoting: RV23

Thats a fair evaluation, but it really depends on the rest of the league.

Is Meier worth more than that? Of course he is, but it takes another team beating it to get it, which may or may not happen

2 févr. à 17 h 10

#12

RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

Mentions "j'aime": 91

Quoting: papishark

Thats a fair evaluation, but it really depends on the rest of the league.

Is Meier worth more than that? Of course he is, but it takes another team beating it to get it, which may or may not happen

Look, in hindsight. Most teams are not a match for a trade with SJ. Options are not plenty here. For the sake of a “bidding war argument here”. My maximum offer goes to 1st, Holtz, and Casey. If that’s not good enough for you guys, I hang up the phone and get whoever makes it to UFA. I know you need to get A LOT out of this trade. But anything more than that is unrealistic.

2 févr. à 17 h 12

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papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Quoting: RV23

And thats an offer I could see happening. If that was the best offer, I would take it and not be super upset.

However, I still hope theres a better one out there because a Meier trade is 100% a loss for us.

2 févr. à 18 h 1

#14

goodfella

Rejoint: déc. 2017

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Quoting: RV23

I'm a Sharks fan and I value Holtz for the record. A level to me. I've been saying a 1st and Holtz for a while.

I've also been saying we'll retain 50% if you want us to take back a bad contract if you add a 2nd or B prospect.

2 févr. à 18 h 14

#15

Smitty426

Rejoint: mai 2016

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Quoting: goodfella

Finally! Thank you.
Devs fans seem to want to overpay at all costs

2 févr. à 18 h 15

#16

RV23

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 239

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Quoting: goodfella

And I’d be more than willing to negotiate with you at that price/mindset

2 févr. à 18 h 25

#17

goodfella

Rejoint: déc. 2017

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Quoting: RV23

And I’d be more than willing to negotiate with you at that price/mindset

Part of the issue is the Horvat trade did impact the market and we're only getting closer to the TDL when desperation increases.

I bet Grier is going to wait and get more offers. It might end up being more.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Couture and Meier gone.

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